re: In retrospect this team probably overachieved

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The Tiger Rant poster who's better at roster evaluation than the people who are paid to do it.

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Do you think an outfit like Rivals is an expert in "roster evaluation" for the needs of individual teams?

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How many juniors do you expect to declare early? 

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White
Greedy
Fulton
Anderson
Sullivan
Lawrence
Feheko
Divinity

All possible. I expect 4-5 from this group to be gone and another 3-4 transfers on top of it.

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He said draft eligible which was silly. What he really meant (and you know what he meant but you're just intentionally being a cock sucker) was those that are likely to leave.

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It's not my job to discern what someone meant to say. Lester should learn to express his thoughts more clearly.

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All possible

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Perhaps you need some clarity on the question

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How many juniors do you expect to declare early? 

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This may be a new concept to you but words mean things.

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I'm sure you disagree though.

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Somewhat. I think an amalgamation of overall rated "talent" a team has recruited doesn't really tell you everything you need with regard to an actual team roster.

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Lester Earl. The Tiger Rant poster who's better at roster evaluation than the people who are paid to do it. In his spare time no less.

Man, you're a talented

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My baw, the problem here is you & how you interpret the rankings you are reciting, not Rivals or 24/7.

I think we can all generally say that LSU has a talented collection of players. But based on context & reality that doesn’t mean they are the 7th most talented team in the nation. They could be more like 12th, 15th or even closer to 20th.

It’s fun to talk about but to put as much stock into as you are trying to do right now is kids stuff.

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I think we can all generally say that LSU has a talented collection of players. But based on context & reality that doesn’t mean they are the 7th most talented team in the nation. They could be more like 12th, 15th or even closer to 20th.

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Ok Lester.

No, I'm simply saying "talent" rating may or may not completely correlate to roster needs of a specific team.

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So you're saying what we all are, you're just poo-pooing the only person in the conversation using measurable data and not just feelings?

Got it.

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Nah, I'm not doing that at all. But you seem oddly angry for some reason. Rage on, I guess.

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In retrospect this team probably overachieved

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you can only accept this, if you accept that Orgeron has allowed the program to decline below the level that Miles had established (and that includes the later Miles years).

Consider the wins/losses:
Big home win over UGA. Miles had continued to win big games long after it was determined LSU was "slipping"; the South Carolina game with Clowney and Lattimore for example. That isn't overachieving, that's "we aren't dead yet".

Wins over Miss St, at Auburn, opening game vs Miami. Those are wins over decent-to-good teams, not great ones. Maybe the best team was Miss State and that was at home; maybe the best win was the road game vs Auburn. Again, LSU "isn't dead yet"; might not be Top 5 anymore but definitely still ranked, and should win more matchups than not.

Losses at Florida and A&M: we've had these games since Saban was here. Road games vs good-not-great SEC teams are tough, and close losses are not to be ashamed of (unless you are in the crowd that thinks we should win every game or quit playing).

Loss to Alabama: really, 29-0 by itself isn't a reflection of the game. Offensively we did move some, probably almost as good as last season's game. Couldn't finish any drives, but it was more than all 3-and-outs for us. Defensively, given that Bama now has Tua and were up for the game, we actually played very well.

So, we had a typical later Miles type of season. Beat solid teams, had the one marquee win that keeps us relevant, still can't match Bama. That's neither overachieving or underachieving, that's making par.