- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
I'm thinking that many of you will start to change your opinion of
Posted on 1/28/10 at 12:24 am
Posted on 1/28/10 at 12:24 am
Gary Crowton in the next couple of years. 
12
Posted on 1/28/10 at 12:25 am to ezride25
Wrong, unless you are talking about the peolpe who think he's a good coach
Posted on 1/28/10 at 12:32 am to chowell21
Posted on 1/28/10 at 12:41 am to ezride25
You mean he's gonna get even worse??? Well frick that shite
Posted on 1/28/10 at 1:59 am to chowell21
im opinion will definately change of him in the next couple of years.... going from our problem to someone else's problem
Posted on 1/28/10 at 7:45 am to ezride25
quote:
I'm thinking that many of you will start to change your opinion of Gary Crowton in the next couple of years.
I'm thinking that you fail at thinking!
Posted on 1/28/10 at 7:58 am to DVtiger
You are probably right. He will be gone after next season and will surface at another school. He will be considered great b/c he will do wonders for that offense, just like he's done the first few yrs at every other school he's been at. Then after the 3rd yr at that school he will again tank, just like he's done at every school he coached at.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:13 am to ezride25
quote:It's quite possible that someone could have a bad opinion of someone because they sucked, and then changed their opinion of them later because they improved.
I'm thinking that many of you will start to change your opinion of
Gary Crowton in the next couple of years.
Contrary to the subliminal tone of your post, this is neither news nor a new idea.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:17 am to ezride25
quote:
I'm thinking that many of you will start to change your opinion of
Gary Crowton in the next couple of years.
...if the offense vastly improves.
To be fair, I don't think last year was all his fault, but he played a significant part in it. For starters, the play calling needs some improvement.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:20 am to cyogi
So does going from 112 Offense and 76 Scoring offense to say 62 Total Offense and 45 Scoring offense does it mean the offense vastly improved?
Even though it is really the difference in 30 yards a game and 2 points a game?
Then what happens if defenses regresses and doesn't force as many turnovers, or doesn't turn all those turnovers into points.
Then they end 9-4 or 8-5 again, the offense improved and the defense was still good but same results. Do you keep Crowton?
Even though it is really the difference in 30 yards a game and 2 points a game?
Then what happens if defenses regresses and doesn't force as many turnovers, or doesn't turn all those turnovers into points.
Then they end 9-4 or 8-5 again, the offense improved and the defense was still good but same results. Do you keep Crowton?
This post was edited on 1/28/10 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:26 am to Number 3 is my Hero
quote:
So does going from 112 Offense and 76 Scoring offense to say 62 Total Offense and 45 Scoring offense does it mean the offense vastly improved?
Vastly improved means vastly improved. What specifics? I mean, relatively speaking, in general, people (nationally) would start saying, "hey, LSU's offense is pretty good this year" rather than "with all that talent it seems they can't move the ball or score points".
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:29 am to cyogi
So a 50 spot jump in total offense and a 31 spot jump in scoring offense is not vastly improved?
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:31 am to ezride25
quote:
I'm thinking that many of you will start to change your opinion of
Gary Crowton in the next couple of years.
let us all hope you are very, very right. if Crowton doesn't produce a sustainable offense molded for the talent on roster we will continue to flounder. IMHO...Crowton, even more than Miles, is on the clock.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:31 am to cyogi
THERE IS ZERO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT HAD RP BEEN OUR QB THE LAST 2 YEARS, LSU FANS WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH GARY CROWTON, MILES ETC....
Rp was a stud...thinking about what could have been makes me really sad for him and for LSU all over....the table was set for him RS Junior taking over an Elite program...
ah....Dang it!
Rp was a stud...thinking about what could have been makes me really sad for him and for LSU all over....the table was set for him RS Junior taking over an Elite program...
ah....Dang it!
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:34 am to Number 3 is my Hero
quote:
So a 50 spot jump in total offense and a 31 spot jump in scoring offense is not vastly improved?
I don't understand what you're after here. If the offense is productive, they are productive. If the offense is not productive, they are not productive.
Statistics don't necessarily measure a good offense of defense, but it's suffice to say that last year sports analysts on a national level repeatedly stated (ESPN, for example) that LSU was the most underachieving offense in college football.
I'm not a Crowton fan. But if LSU turns it around on offense next year, then yes, it stands that Crowton deserves to stay. Will this happen? I don't have a crystal ball.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:34 am to ApexTiger
Even with RP we would then be breaking in a new QB with youth along both lines, RB, WE, and at LB.
RS Junior would be Lee as Jefferson would then be a RS Sophomore. Instead we have a Junior starting with a RS Junior as a backup.
RS Junior would be Lee as Jefferson would then be a RS Sophomore. Instead we have a Junior starting with a RS Junior as a backup.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:40 am to cyogi
quote:
I don't understand what you're after here. If the offense is productive, they are productive. If the offense is not productive, they are not productive.
The offense could make a significant jump in rankings and not look fluid. However by the numbers they vastly improved, of course you could have the reverse true as well. Where offense looks fluid yet the numbers do not match the view point of that.
So numbers vastly improves but offense still treads in mud, or offense looks great but numbers do not improve by much. What is definition of vastly improves. Everyone defines that differently and has their own opinions about it.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:50 am to Number 3 is my Hero
quote:
The offense could make a significant jump in rankings and not look fluid. However by the numbers they vastly improved, of course you could have the reverse true as well. Where offense looks fluid yet the numbers do not match the view point of that.
Totally agree.
quote:
So numbers vastly improves but offense still treads in mud, or offense looks great but numbers do not improve by much.
Again, agree.
quote:
What is definition of vastly improves. Everyone defines that differently and has their own opinions about it.
Well, this gets a bit muddy. I would say the only way to give some sort of measurement with this is if you have some form of consensus nationally and among fans that the LSU offense "is good" and/or "is productive". As stated, it really can't be measured with statistics.
Is LSU's offense a threat? Do they make clutch plays when needed? Does the offense win or lose the game? Does the offense put the defense in good position? Do they always line up in a bunch formation on 3rd and short and run the same play, hence very predictable? It can go on and on....
I think it's clear to most people that last year's LSU offense, given the perceived talent, was underachieving. Will the fans and national media have this perception during the 2010 season? I have my prediction as most everyone has their own.
Posted on 1/28/10 at 8:54 am to ApexTiger
quote:
THERE IS ZERO DOUBT IN MY MIND THAT HAD RP BEEN OUR QB THE LAST 2 YEARS, LSU FANS WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH GARY CROWTON, MILES ETC....
I agree RP was a stud, but I'm glad no one can use this excuse next year. In fact, we should be farther ahead next year because we will have experienced QB's. Had RP stuck around and stayed healthy, we would be breaking in a new qb next year.
Page 1 of 3
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News