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re: I’m not sure what some of you “fans” expected
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
LOL based on what???? Success at Houston? Give me a break. If O had the reports that you are seeing at UT with basically entire groups of players say they can’t stand playing for him, kids leaving the program strictly because of Herman and the things he is doing, you would be calling for his head. but Herman gets the excuse of trying to weed out strongs players and get his own in.
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Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:04 pm to nolatrain504
Show me anyone that predicted the worst lost ever to the team we played over 100 years.
Show me anyone that predicted Troy would whip our asses
Show me anyone that predicted we would dump 3 million on an OC we used for 1 season.
Show me anyone that predicted Troy would whip our asses
Show me anyone that predicted we would dump 3 million on an OC we used for 1 season.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:04 pm to nolatrain504
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Give credit where it is due.
For beating a bunch of sub .500 teams?
For losing to Troy at home?
For getting our doors blown off by Miss State?
You can suck Orgeron off all you want, but the program is now worse off than it was under Miles.
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For a first year head coach, 9 wins despite all of this adversity is a damn good job
See above. Also, with LSU's situation after Miles leaving, any coach could have come in here and won 9 games.
I'm sorry you can't see that Orgeron was at best a lateral move from Miles. And I'm also sorry you can't see that LSU is being left behind.
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O didn’t do that bad.
Lost to Troy and got blown out by Miss State. Sorry kiddo, you are 100% WRONG.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:04 pm to nolatrain504
you do know what you are talking about, unlike most of the idiots on this board.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:05 pm to nolatrain504
Lol didn’t do that bad
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:06 pm to Freauxzen
Sure.. if that what it takes. My post history shows my knowledge and love for the program. Many on here only show complaints and BS. Too many on tigerdroppings run with hearsay and believe everything they read. Why do you think this site get such a bad rep on paid sites. It’s bc the posters on here (real or “fake”) do get read by prospects and it paints a bad pic of the program.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:06 pm to nolatrain504
I just want to know when are we allowed to hold Orgeron responsible for his results.
According to the O-bots we can't use any of his time at OM as evidence because he was set up to fail. Now we can't use this year as evidence because of how Miles left the team in disrepair. So are we talking about 2020 before we can finally hold him responsible? That's another damn contract.
According to the O-bots we can't use any of his time at OM as evidence because he was set up to fail. Now we can't use this year as evidence because of how Miles left the team in disrepair. So are we talking about 2020 before we can finally hold him responsible? That's another damn contract.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:08 pm to nolatrain504
I think we are going to be really good next season. Coach O has addressed some serious needs that this team was lacking in, and we hve alot of talent on both sides of the ball with even more coming in as freshmen. We will be just fine. I'm already looking forward to next season. I'm glad our basketball program is fun to watch this year and our baseball team should be good again to make the offseason go by a little faster. Geaux tigers.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:08 pm to Tigerde
Exactly right. That’s my problem. They give these other coaches the benefit of the doubt and make excuses, while giving our own coach hell. Why would anyone want to come coach here.
It’s almost as if LSU fans nowadays pray for our downfall while hoping these other coaches win championships just so they can prove we made the wrong hire. (Made apparent by a post earlier about DA leaving so LSU tanks to get rid of O)
It’s almost as if LSU fans nowadays pray for our downfall while hoping these other coaches win championships just so they can prove we made the wrong hire. (Made apparent by a post earlier about DA leaving so LSU tanks to get rid of O)
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:09 pm to nolatrain504
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It’s bc the posters on here (real or “fake”) do get read by prospects and it paints a bad pic of the program.
The program has done that to itself
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:10 pm to nolatrain504
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Why would anyone want to come coach here.
If a coach doesn't hold himself to a higher standard than the fans do and is easily intimidated by criticism then I don't want him
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:10 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:10 pm to nolatrain504
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LOL based on what???? Success at Houston? Give me a break. If O had the reports that you are seeing at UT with basically entire groups of players say they can’t stand playing for him, kids leaving the program strictly because of Herman and the things he is doing, you would be calling for his head. but Herman gets the excuse of trying to weed out strongs players and get his own in.
These things are not equal.
UT needed a full rebuild, that means you have to crack some eggs. Additionally, Herman is installing a system. He's still an unknown commodity, but at the hiring time he was a much less risky option, and, he seems to know what he is doing generally, even if it is ticking some people off. Change is uncomfortable.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:13 pm to nolatrain504
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They give these other coaches the benefit of the doubt and make excuses, while giving our own coach hell.
Because Herman has earned the benefit of the doubt with proven results.
O has not. O is a failure of a head coach, he wasn't supposed to get a chance in the first place.
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It’s almost as if LSU fans nowadays pray for our downfall while hoping these other coaches win championships just so they can prove we made the wrong hire. (Made apparent by a post earlier about DA leaving so LSU tanks to get rid of O)
That's just frustration talking, no one really wants LSU to fail. What that is is people having ZERO faith or trust in O. And that's a fair opinion. He's earned nothing. Not the benefit of the chance. Not a chance. Not at this level of football.
I feel pretty safe saying O has a 0% chance to win a National Championship.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:14 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:19 pm to nolatrain504
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And i think you will get that, but if you expected any more than that this year than you were reaching. Replace Troy and MSU with auburn and Fla and that’s the record many thought we would have. It takes time to build a roster, get the coaches on the same page, and get young guys to grow up and be physically ready
And that thought would be fine in a normal year. However, UF went 4-7 and Auburn went 10-4. Arkansas, Ole Miss, a&m, UF, and UTk were all as bad as they have been in 5+ years and all fired their coaches. They were a missed FG from losing at UF.
I give O credit for keeping the wheels from coming off after Troy. But let’s not act like the SEC was what it’s been the last 10 years.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:22 pm to Freauxzen
Did Matt Luke earn the OM job? Did they have other options? Did LSU? We will see how OM fans react next season. Phil Fulmer won 8 games his second year after getting the job following an interim stint. Should TN have fired him. How about Dabo after his intermin hiring? Should Clemson have let him go?
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:24 pm to nolatrain504
Just going on what O promised no reload but continuation and play offs. He set his own goals I just want to make sure he achicives those goals. Playoffs in 2018 or hit the bricks.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:24 pm to nolatrain504
Didn't LSU finish as one of the top 4 team in SEC? If so you really expected better than that with so many early injuries and playing 21 freshmen? Not to mention an average QB which is the most important position.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:30 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:28 pm to CalTiger53
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idn't LSU finish as one of the top 4 team in SEC? If so you really expected better than that with have so many injuries early and playing 21 freshmen? Not to mention an average QB which is the most important position.
Maybe O should be more careful what he promises some may take them seriously, I know I do. Keep your promise O. Play offs in 2018 or hit the bricks.
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:35 pm to nolatrain504
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Did Matt Luke earn the OM job? Did they have other options?
Don't care what OM does. And their expectations are different from LSU's.
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Did LSU?
Of course we did. Were there only 3 head coaches available?
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Phil Fulmer won 8 games his second year after getting the job following an interim stint. Should TN have fired him.
Fulmer head coached for 13 years with TN prior to being Head Coach. He proved himself as a . coordinator and served in various positions. And he studied under Majors for years. That's a different kind of relationship. Not the same.
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How about Dabo after his intermin hiring? Should Clemson have let him go?
Swinney is an outlier and was significantly younger than O. His coaching career is mindboggling, you should look it up. He's clearly successful, but there's no chance for a Top 15 team to ever randomly find a Dabo with barely 10 years of coaching experience.
If you can find a 20+ year career position coach with a multi-year coaching tenure that was a catastrophe, that gets a second chance and wins a National Championship, let's compare. Until then, eh, I'd say 95% of head coaches of Top 15 programs are proven commodities to some degree. And those strange stories like Dabo are rare, and only happen at places like Clemson. When hired, Clemson was coming off a middling Bowden tenure. They were in a position to roll the dice.
This post was edited on 1/2/18 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 1/2/18 at 8:40 pm to nolatrain504
Expectations were low. So meeting them isn’t an accomplishment. duh.
The expectations after firing Miles were that we would improve. Did we? No.
Orgeron “fans” are incredible. They care more about O than LSU. Fake “fans” for sure.
The expectations after firing Miles were that we would improve. Did we? No.
Orgeron “fans” are incredible. They care more about O than LSU. Fake “fans” for sure.
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