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re: I'm flummoxed over why so many of you are willing to fly the plane into the mountain...

Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:26 am to
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52439 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:26 am to
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I’m still looking for ANY example of where cooperating with NCAA has been beneficial to an athletic program.

It appears schools do better by denying forever.



Exactly.
Recent examples. Mizzou and Ole Miss cooperated and got hammered.

UNC and Aubarn united fronts deny deny deny and nothing happened.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:27 am to
quote:

You get a coach like Will Wade once in a lifetime. He is bigger than the program IMO.


Jesus...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79455 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:27 am to
Um, hows that last part work?

If Wade is found to have been doing illegal stuff we’re fricked.

Not shutting the frick up is how we’re going to get fricked.

Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
46740 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:27 am to
Let’s see how far you will go as a “law and order” guy. Should LSU turn itself in for every player on every LSU team that is getting paid?
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:27 am to
quote:

I guess I'm just one of those old law and order guys

Sounds more like you're ready to be judge and jury.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
5845 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:28 am to
quote:

'm a huge LSU fan, it's a big part of me, everybody that knows me knows this. But I can't go here. I guess I'm just one of those old law and order guys, a thing of the past it seems.



I'm going to let you in on a little secret: LSU Boosters cheat like hell to get elite level athletes here. All elite level college sports programs cheat like hell. And....... it's been going on for the past 50 years.

So........ if you can't deal with it, don't be a fan of Big-Time College Sports and don't be a Fan of LSU.
Posted by bigberg2000
houston, from chalmette
Member since Sep 2005
70747 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:29 am to
I am so torn on this.

I just hope this break allows wade to focus on what he needs to and allows the team to focus on the game.

Let’s let it play out before casting stones.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:29 am to
quote:

, show the NCAA you are cooperating fully, that they are out ahead of this deal.


History has shown that that has never worked.

Not once.

Every University that survived any scandals has done so by going into denial mode and standing strong and unified.

Every University that has cooperated with the NCAA has been hammered.

NCAA: "Thanks for your cooperation. We really appreciate you doing our job for us. Now take THAT, bitch!"
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:30 am
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22120 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:31 am to
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:32 am to
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some of us would rather not cheat to have to win. i know i know everyone else is doing it


Spoken like a true loser.

"If you're not cheating, you're not trying."

I don't like it but that's the nature of things right now. I would love to see it change but not at LSU's expense, especially if everybody else is playing the same game.

Reserve your moral indignation. It has no relevance here.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
9105 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:34 am to
quote:

some of us would rather not cheat to have to win



It’s not cheating when everyone is doing the same thing
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

It’s not cheating when everyone is doing the same thing


Then don't get caught.

This is hard imbecile
Posted by Brettesaurus Rex
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2009
38261 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:35 am to
If he's guilty, the entire season is vacated. So what do you accomplish by suspending him now? Let the trial play out and you know, actually obtain some facts before suspending one of your employees.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14918 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:35 am to
quote:

Every University that has cooperated with the NCAA has been hammered.

You are entirely correct.

I still want to know who the OP thinks we're cooperating with.
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4130 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:36 am to
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THE KIDS WHO PLAY THE GAME


The kids don't make adjustments when things aren't going well on the court. The head coach does that. The head coach calms them down and manages the minutes and fouls. LSU has played too many close and OT games to assume the players can play the game themselves that way and continue
winning. This team typically doesn't blow other teams out.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:37 am
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
26781 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:38 am to
quote:

some of us would rather not cheat to have to win. i know i know everyone else is doing it 

I used to really care about my school not "cheating" until I realized that the NCAA turns a blind eye to so much and only enforces things when it is convenient for them.

When the NCAA did not punish North Carolina at all despite finding unbelievable academic fraud going back over a decade with fake classes, fake teachers and fake grades, I realized it's not a level playing field or fair. That's much worse than paying players, etc., because it's an institution of higher learning first and foremost. And the head of the NCAA committee that somehow decided not to punish NC was none other than current SEC Commissioner Greg Sankey.

Knasas and Duke were both involved with Zion Williamson's recruitment which we know was dirty due to the wiretap and his stepdad asking for a job, cash and housing for the family. Anyone with half of a brain knows that if Zion ended up at Duke, they paid for him. Zion Williamson is still playing. Coach K is still coaching without getting dogged by questions about it. And Bill Self is still coaching without getting dogged by questions about his assistant coach stating they would take care of all those requests just to get Zion there for 10 months.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52439 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:40 am to
Miller is the prime example. Caught discussing 100K payment on tape. One game suspension and then back on the bench. This to me proves the NCAA really doesn’t want to dig too deep into basketball because they know how dirty it is and are scared of what they will find. Just keep your mouth shut except for saying no comment and let this shite blow over.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:40 am to
Fight the the NCAA and potentially walk away unscathed or minor sanctions at worse like Arizona who did far worse.

Cuckold to the NCAA and guarantee sanctions.

What’s your choice?

We know what Joe and F King have chosen and have a solid track record of making similar decisions.

Cucks gonna cuck.

The suspension of WW is admission of an unspecified violation.

Before the suspension the situation was stable and getting better and will get better as more coaches and teams are outed by Dawkins’ attorneys. We live in a relative world.

After the suspension the situation was made worse for LSU as a whole especially for the players.

Terrible but not uncharacteristic move by Alleva and F King.

Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
18739 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:42 am to
quote:

The media is not the NCAA.


Herein lies my ire. LSU reacted to a typical sports media topic of the day cycle, pure and simple, end of story. This has been well known for months. There have been months to meet and discuss anything and everything about this with WW, consult the FBI, the NCAA...whoevever.

If this has not been thoroughly vetted by our admins in this time, it speaks to their incompetence and ignorance. To leak a "he would not meet with us" excuse is convenient and bogus.
Posted by VOR
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2009
68838 posts
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:43 am to
Unfortunately, you’re probably correct when it comes too the larger, long-term picture. But I wonder if there was a way to finesse this crap a little better to show good faith on the part of LSU.
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