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re: I'm flummoxed over why so many of you are willing to fly the plane into the mountain...
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:07 am to Slippy
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:07 am to Slippy
Was it the right thing to do when the Duke Lacrosse team was being convicted by the media to be cautious and suspend their coach and players?
Why no, no it was the cowardly thing to do.
Acting, without all the facts, which LSU admits they don't have, is fricking cowardly and the exact opposite of the right thing to do.
FKA and JA are fricking horrible and should both be drawn and quartered
Why no, no it was the cowardly thing to do.
Acting, without all the facts, which LSU admits they don't have, is fricking cowardly and the exact opposite of the right thing to do.
FKA and JA are fricking horrible and should both be drawn and quartered
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Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:08 am to More&Les
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Was it the right thing to do when the Duke Lacrosse team was being convicted by the media to be cautious and suspend their coach and players?
Not even close to the same situation.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:08 am to Honkus
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some of us would rather not cheat to have to win. i know i know everyone else is doing it
Then you should stop following all big time college athletics and find you a nice NAIU team to follow.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:08 am to Slippy
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ing future penalties, AND bringing Will Wade back as coach is t
Except, past history and facts show you are wrong.
This post was edited on 3/9/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:09 am to Honkus
Well you can’t win then unfortunately. It’s pretty much impossible to have a team that can compete for something meaningful without getting dirty in recruiting because everyone else is doing it and will continue to do it.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:09 am to Slippy
Riiiiight. Just like when cops tell you just tell the truth and you'll be better in the long run.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:10 am to Slippy
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LSU is doing the right thing, the cautious thing, by suspending Wade. Yeah, it's easy as a keyboard warrior to say "frick Yahoo, frick the NCAA" and demand that LSU "stand behind their guy", etc. etc.
How, pray tell, is LSU doing the right thing? They knew before the season started that Will Wade was on FBI wiretaps. They knew about discussions concerning Smart prior to the season started. This is FACT.
So........... you either suspend BOTH prior to the season or you let it play out.
What you don't do is you don't suspend your coach with only one game left in the regular season!
Look......... IF, and IF is huge here, because the NCAA is completely inept, that they can actually PROVE that Will Wade gave illegal benefits, this entire season is being vacated.
So...... what exactly are they protecting? Alleva is the biggest Pussy AD in the country. He didn't stand by his Lacrosse coach at Duke and he isn't standing by his basketball coach at LSU. He is WEAK. He succumbs to pressure way too easily.
The basketball program was totally and completely destroyed yesterday. It's over! No decent coach is coming here. No decent recruits are coming here.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:10 am to Slippy
Because at this point the plane has either already crashed into the mountain or it hasn’t.
A suspension this late in the season won’t avoid “flying the plane into the mountain”.
LSU knew about the wiretaps in OCTOBER. That was the time to suspend (if they wanted to). Doing it now is of no practical affect.
If he broke NCAA rules...in 2017, he’s going to be fired. If not, then this suspension is a complete waste of time.
This is like deciding to quit smoking once the cancer has metastasized and doctors are giving you 2 months to live. What’s done is done.
Finish the season, wait to see what happens with the April trial and subsequent NCAA investigation.
A suspension this late in the season won’t avoid “flying the plane into the mountain”.
LSU knew about the wiretaps in OCTOBER. That was the time to suspend (if they wanted to). Doing it now is of no practical affect.
If he broke NCAA rules...in 2017, he’s going to be fired. If not, then this suspension is a complete waste of time.
This is like deciding to quit smoking once the cancer has metastasized and doctors are giving you 2 months to live. What’s done is done.
Finish the season, wait to see what happens with the April trial and subsequent NCAA investigation.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:10 am to Slippy
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LSU is doing the right thing, the cautious thing, by suspending Wade
He hasn't been found guilty of anything.
Go look at the Duke situation. That entire team got shafted and all over nothing.
There was zero reason to suspend him until an investigation found him guilty.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:10 am to Slippy
first, congratulations on your use of the word “flummoxed”.
Second, we had a program which was pretty much a joke before Wade came along anyway. It doesn’t seem like a heavily sanctioned program would be much worse than that.
Third, we have probably been cheating all along, even when we sucked so its not like the integrity of the program has changed all of a sudden.
Fourth, cheating is normal procedure in a top program. If you aren’t cheating, you’re doing it wrong. Also, since it is normal procedure, if you aren’t cheating, you aren’t going to be winning anything anyway.
Second, we had a program which was pretty much a joke before Wade came along anyway. It doesn’t seem like a heavily sanctioned program would be much worse than that.
Third, we have probably been cheating all along, even when we sucked so its not like the integrity of the program has changed all of a sudden.
Fourth, cheating is normal procedure in a top program. If you aren’t cheating, you’re doing it wrong. Also, since it is normal procedure, if you aren’t cheating, you aren’t going to be winning anything anyway.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:11 am to Slippy
What purpose does suspending him now serve? One of two things now happens:
1. Wade is found guilty and the whole season is wiped regardless of suspension. LSU gets hammered with sanctions anyway.
2. Wade is found innocent and now knows the university does not have his back in tough spots.
No win situation and the truth is it only serve to save face for Alleva and F King. Not really though since the damage is done already and they appear weak...again.
At this point, regardless of what any of us believe, these are all allegations. Nothing has been proven yet. It may well happen, or not, but we don’t know today. So instead of supporting your guy until that day comes, you throw him under the bus? The guy that turned around a dumpster fire into one of the country’s best teams in less than 2 years, following a decade of mediocrity to sucking.
I doubt you’d ever run any sort of business but I would never wanna work with you in any capacity if that’s the way you think. Guilty until proven innocent in this pussy society we live in today
1. Wade is found guilty and the whole season is wiped regardless of suspension. LSU gets hammered with sanctions anyway.
2. Wade is found innocent and now knows the university does not have his back in tough spots.
No win situation and the truth is it only serve to save face for Alleva and F King. Not really though since the damage is done already and they appear weak...again.
At this point, regardless of what any of us believe, these are all allegations. Nothing has been proven yet. It may well happen, or not, but we don’t know today. So instead of supporting your guy until that day comes, you throw him under the bus? The guy that turned around a dumpster fire into one of the country’s best teams in less than 2 years, following a decade of mediocrity to sucking.
I doubt you’d ever run any sort of business but I would never wanna work with you in any capacity if that’s the way you think. Guilty until proven innocent in this pussy society we live in today
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:11 am to Slippy
If we’re guilty we are screwed regardless. What’s the difference between a few years of sucking? Our b-ball program will take forever to recover from this IF guilty. Why suspend Wade before the NCAA comes calling? Alleva is a pussy.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:11 am to Slippy
John Calipari
Frank Martin
Bruce Pearl
Rick Barnes
Those are some of the guys in the SEC that are all accused of the same shite Wade is. But they’re still on the sidelines.
Frank Martin
Bruce Pearl
Rick Barnes
Those are some of the guys in the SEC that are all accused of the same shite Wade is. But they’re still on the sidelines.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:11 am to Slippy
Except suspending Wade does NOTHING. If he is guilty, then every game he has coached plus the games the players have played will be forfeited. So what is the point? Nothing is going to change because he's suspended
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:12 am to LSU316
Sean Miller is on wiretap ACTUALLY discussing a 100k payment to a player, and they brought him back in a week. Why can't LSU do the same with Wade???
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:12 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not even close to the same situation
Sure it is, the exact fricking same, serious accusations, appearance of guilt and Joe fricking Alleva making a knee jerk decision which ultimately cost Duke University millions of dollars.
Its exactly the fricking same
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:13 am to More&Les
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the exact fricking same,
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:13 am to Slippy
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show the NCAA you are cooperating fully,
Cooperating with who exactly? The NCAA is not investigating Will Wade or LSU. As far as we know, no one is investigating Will Wade or LSU.
So, who are we cooperating with?
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Not even close to the same situation.
Do you have the transcripts or the audio? Oh what you dont? Then you must have a deposit slip or copy of a check or something. Oh you dont? So you are trusting Pat Forde's word that he has included every single necessary detail and isnt trying to generate as much interest in his column as possible+you must trust fully in the integrity of the defense attorneys that they would include all the evidence and not just leak evidence that is beneficial to their case.
Posted on 3/9/19 at 9:14 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Alleva is a total dick head, but he is still here!!! 
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