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re: I'm Becoming More Convinced That Wade Cheated

Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:54 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 5:54 am to
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Take your medicine and shut the frick up.
You sound like a catcher in life. Swallow much? Is that your bag?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:10 am to
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You are assuming Wade ever takes the stand?


No, that’s why I said “if.” The only chance he has of getting out of this is if he never puts his hand on a Bible. I hope that never happens, obviously.

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If this does reach the point that he is asked to testify, he should tell the truth.



Of course he should tell the truth. Nobody wants federal perjury charges hanging over their head. That’s why, if he cheated—and let’s be honest, we all know he did(whether we care or not)—and he he is either called or just deposed and finds himself under oath, he has boxed himself in a corner where he cannot come out unscathed one way or the other.

He’s in a really bad spot right now. He’s trying to save his $9 million guaranteed, his professional careeer which has barely just begun and hopefully has another 25-30 years left, and himself from potentially going to jail for perjury.

The only “good” outcome for him is to not get called. We’ll see. Maybe he can make a strong arse offer to Dawkins to plea before he he would have to testify.
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:17 am to
Of course he is, but the Groupthink around here is strong so it doesn't matter.
Posted by CP3forMVP
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:20 am to
I’m 100% positive that Wade cheated, I just don’t care.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:21 am to
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LSUfan20005
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the Groupthink
You think LSU should have suspended Wade? and Smart?
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71474 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:25 am to
The protests and whatnot are a bit ridiculous. I get it, everyone cheats. But Wade was caught red handed and it wasn’t some sting operation by the NCAA. It was the fbi trying to catch Dawkins. Wade was dumb and spoke to this individual personally.

Alleva certainly has a history of being reactionary, and this is no different.

But fellas- we were busted. Plain and simple.
This post was edited on 3/12/19 at 6:26 am
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:28 am to
No, because if the NCAA lays the hammer then it doesn’t matter anyways. The entire season will be vacated. So might as well play and let the man coach until it all plays out.

But protests? Protests are meant for injustices. It was dumb to suspend Wade and Smart, but it wasn’t an injustice. Wade clearly paid for the kid to come to LSU.
Posted by thotpocket
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Member since Sep 2017
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:30 am to
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Wade clearly paid for the kid to come to LSU.


Can you prove that?

Yea, didn't think so.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:30 am to
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Wade was dumb and spoke to this individual personally.
As did several coaches we so far know of. None were suspended . . . except Wade.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71474 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:31 am to
Look, I agree. Alleva is a jackass.
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:31 am to
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am one that believes in following the rules AS WELL AS winning.


Hahahahahaha.

Good luck with all that.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71474 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:32 am to
Whatever you say man.

As I’ve said, Alleva shouldn’t have suspended him. But I think it’s pretty obvious at this point. I’m perfectly fine with paying for players and want someone willing to get their hands dirty.

But if get caught then that’s that. Risk and reward. Be smarter, don’t talk on the phone.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:33 am to
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Protests are meant for injustices. It was dumb to suspend Wade and Smart,
If thirty coaches are implicated, yet only one is suspended, that is in fact an injustice.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:34 am to
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Yet "Everybody's doing it" is not an excuse.
just bc you say it isn't an excuse doesn't mean it's not reality.

Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
71474 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:34 am to
Who besides Sean Miller and Wade were recorded by the fbi talking to Dawkins? I know other schools were listed but I haven’t seen where they were actually recorded. KU assistant is another I guess and he’s been fired.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:37 am to
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Look, I agree. Alleva is a jackass.
NO!

UF's AD was a jackass.
Alleva is a negligent, incompetent, imbecile who tainted Duke, and now has tainted LSU.
The folks refusing to fire him are jackasses.
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14977 posts
Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:37 am to
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I'm Becoming More Convinced That Wade Cheated


If the definition of cheat is to act dishonestly in order to gain an advantage in a game, and if the unspoken rules of the game that every body abides to is to engage in the exact same behavior that WW engaged in, did he really gain any advantage?

Maybe a moral equivocation and not a defense, but I don't see it as cheating as much as it is that he got caught breaking the official rules.
Posted by chalmetteowl
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:39 am to
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He’s trying to save his $9 million guaranteed, his professional careeer which has barely just begun and hopefully has another 25-30 years left,
he wouldn't have that possibility if he was unwilling to push the limits on things like this
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:41 am to
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Who besides Sean Miller and Wade were recorded by the fbi talking to Dawkins?


The fbi has 4,000 minutes of tape. All taken in a 2 month span. I am not sure who all is involved but apparentloy 30-40 schools.

The thing is Dawkins can't be the only middle man out there. Wouldn't Nike have them also?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 3/12/19 at 6:43 am to
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Who besides Sean Miller and Wade were recorded by the fbi talking to Dawkins?
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