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re: I’ll be the first to eat crow….i really thought McMahon had turned the corner

Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:11 pm to
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:11 pm to
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He is worse than Johnny jones. Not even close


Johnny Jones at least had mickey and Jarrell.

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29569 posts
Posted on 1/7/25 at 11:13 pm to
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Basketball has almost no $$ to compete for players in the portal. We brought in 3 senior guards but no big guys.
So basically in year 3 of McMahon we needed enough money to buy a minimum of 4 starters in the portal? And since we only got 3 and had an injury we can’t expect to even be competitive?
Posted by WhySoSerious
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Member since Jan 2014
880 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:48 am to
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Reporters who have interviewed him are unanimous in their impression that he exudes strategy and tactic.

Yea I don’t see this at all idc how well he answers questions. “X’s & O’s” coaches destroy 100% of the less talented teams they play, beat 90% of the equally talented teams & get an upset or 2 every year while keeping games close. McMahon, the opposite. Consistent double digits loses against ranked teams, complete toss-up against equal talent & allows FCS schools to stay in the game until the 2nd half. Too many games that should’ve been over by halftime resulted in 100-post threads started by overreacting fans because we’re down 3 at half against the 5th ranked team in the fricking Big Sky.
Half of the fan base thinks he’s some kind of basketball savant who can’t construct a roster. The other half thinks he’s bringing in great talent but can’t coach them. I think he’s bringing in mostly mediocre players that aren’t talented enough to compensate for his inability to out-coach the opponent by a wide enough margin to win a game on a consistent basis. He’s simply a mid coach in an insanely competitive conference. Basketball version of Mark Stoops.
Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
9995 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 12:55 am to
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We simply can't compete with other SEC schools for players because the $$ is not there


As I pointed out in another thread earlier we have out-recruited most of the conference under McMahon. We have had significantly better recruiting classes than Florida, Mississippi State and A&M and we are not remotely close to being on their level.
Posted by mcmaniacinsaneasylum
BOOT UP
Member since Feb 2023
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Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:39 am to
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As I pointed out in another thread earlier we have out-recruited most of the conference under McMahon.


Exactly… I really don’t know how posters come to the conclusion our recruiting is bad.. it’s not. It’s the one area McMahon has been doing well in.
The narrative we don’t have the $ is flat out wrong. I’ve talked about flipping VJ and Curtis here ad nauseum.

It might not be as much as the top schools, but it’s certainly not as low as the bottom feeders. Other schools do more with less.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35399 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:03 am to
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“the program that couldn’t even make a tourney with Ben Simmons”


This is the cousin of "the program that couldn't win shite with Shaq and Chris Jackson". Thanks Daddy Dale.
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
10754 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 2:11 am to
I honestly think LSU just doesn’t give enough of a shite about the basketball program to spend the money it takes to hire a legit basketball coach. Wade is the closest thing to legit LSU has had for a basketball coach in over 30 years or more. And even Wade isn’t near level of a Bill Self, Tom Izzo, Coach K, Roy Williams or Jay Wright.
Posted by WaydownSouth
Stratton Oakmont
Member since Nov 2018
9694 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 6:09 am to
Wonder if in an NIL world Johnny O'Bryant comes back and we have a team with Jordan Mickey, Jarrell Martin, and Johnny O
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
7507 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:02 am to
I like McMahon a lot too but he is proving that this is too big of a job for him. Morant fell into his lap… it’s not like McMahon turned him into the player he’s become.
Posted by PurpleSingularity
Member since Dec 2017
1656 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:17 am to
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What this shows is that being a high iq, x and o guy isnt the key to success in CBB. By all accounts, McMahon is the most cerebral coach in the conference. Reporters who have interviewed him are unanimous in their impression that he exudes strategy and tactic. He’s a master of the game, just not a master at roster construction


I mentioned something similar in another thread, but I disagree slightly with you.

I think he understands the basic tenants of basketball, and can talk about the game at a high level. But his teams lack identity, physical toughness, and don’t play defense with a passion or purpose.

I just don’t think he has the components of his personality that are required to be a great-elite college basketball coach…that’s not going to change.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
70903 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:37 am to
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As I pointed out in another thread earlier we have out-recruited most of the conference under McMahon. We have had significantly better recruiting classes than Florida, Mississippi State and A&M and we are not remotely close to being on their level.



We have 1 contributor on this team right now from his first 2 recruiting classes, that's Corey Chest....who I would say is playing about to his ranking of just outside the Top 100. He is a flawed player but he is good at what he's good at (Rebounding/defense).

Mike Williams has disappeared. Reed is hurt, out for season. Ward quit the team. The 2 other guys from his first class have both transferred out.

This team is freshmen and transfers at this point. So the recruiting angle is kind of null and void for the most part. The only guys he recruited that are playing right now are true freshmen of which nobody really looks that ready if we're being honest and then the transfers, which for the most part, these are not SEC starter caliber players.

The most glaring weakness is he never went out and got a PG for this team. Sears is a short scoring guard, horrible ball handler. Cam Carter is a scoring guard. Givens is still just trying to figure everything out as a freshman.

There's nobody on this team that can run an offense.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 7:40 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
59125 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 7:44 am to
I’ll be the first to admit that basketball only serves to bridge football and baseball for me. But I thought and hoped McMahon would be the guy. Let this season play out, but the first two SEC games are a touch alarming.
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