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re: If you sign too many 3 star corners...

Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:33 pm to
Posted by Srobi14
South Florida
Member since Aug 2014
3517 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:33 pm to
I disagree, flott was on his man and made some plays and also got beat but looked fine. Ward looked out of shape but made some big time plays and some big time busts, I think he will be good though, Evans isn't SEC caliber. I'm less worried about the future than this season because I think we have talent that will just have to learn on the job but a few few of those games, especially Bama is going to be rough.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17041 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 10:53 pm to
this is what separates us from the likes of bama/Clemson

theres a big drop-off of talent/inexperience whenever LSU have players opting out

team doesn't have quality depth and it's always been like that

for every great 3 star theres probably a 3-4 who contribute very little
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
10550 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:07 pm to
Any roster in the country compared to bama depth wise is going to look worse. They’ve been recruiting better than anyone for 13 years. Clemson’s turnover isn’t as obvious due to the conference they play in. They get their guys developed and game experience all year so when they get to the playoffs, they’re a seasoned team. Apples and oranges.
Posted by tiggah1981
Winterfell
Member since Aug 2007
17041 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:31 pm to
quote:

Any roster in the country compared to bama depth wise is going to look worse.


im well aware, but theres a lot of posters who really believe LSU has as much talent as Bama year and year out..

its just not true. we had a juggernaut season last year, everything lined up make it as special as it was.

but if we are recruiting 3 stars at positions of need theres going to be a drop-off in production.

ive heard it before, we wont see the fruits of our labor in recruiting after winning the SHIP until the following recruiting cycle.

that is was ok to strike out on the top ranked recruits last recruiting cycle because lsu was going to make up for it this cycle.

if this team doesn't find a way to put up Ws then all that recruiting pitch goes to the wayside.

hopefully this staff closes the deal better than years past, but I have my doubts
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 9/28/20 at 11:50 pm to
I mean most of them had very little experience whatsoever. Our best corner and our second or third best corner were not there
Posted by LongTime Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
2458 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:11 am to



quote:

DBU is either dead, or dying a slow, uh quick death.


I agree that Saturday was a very poor performance by our whole defense, especially the DBs.
But what school has the #1 CB recruit in two successive years? We do!Stingley and Ricks.
How many have a Top 10 athlete recruit playing multiple DB positions in his SR year like Jacoby Stevens? Cordale Flott was the #46 best CB in his class and had offers from every school in SECW plus Florida & TN, among others. We didn't play like DBU but we have some horses. BTW, Moo State will torch many other teams this year as Leach is VERY good at finding weak spots and picking on the weakest players. They will average 30+ per game
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:18 am to
Somebody tried to tell me that we wouldn’t miss Vincent because we got Evans lmao
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:20 am to
Ummm ever heard of Jaylen Waddle and Devonta Smith?
Posted by ultratiger89
Houston, Tx
Member since Aug 2007
3039 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:12 am to
quote:

I’ve never seen us with corners that can’t run with receivers....


You must be very young..........
Posted by Brobocop
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2018
1905 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 4:50 am to
I would like to see Dwight McGlothern get reps. I don’t care if he’s only been on campus for a couple months.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12896 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 5:29 am to
quote:

But what school has the #1 CB recruit in two successive years? We do!Stingley and Ricks.
I have to say, Ricks playing his first collegiate game ever, against an air raid offense, where his compatriots weren't getting it done beside him, with an experienced QB who played an excellent game, with very little S help, played a helluva game with all things considered.

He stands alone in that.

Looking at him, DBU is alive and well.

We did just let an SEC record be set against us. It is a combination of coaches, players, and external conditions. But most of it is fixable. Unlike past coaches who failed to recognize that it was more than players going out and just executing better this staff knows that just demanding more of the same but done better isn't the solution and that fixes across the board are needed. I have no doubt that they will be applied.

So with a staff that is self-critical and seeing players like Ricks out there the pessimism is unwarranted. The bitching and anger isn't. MSST did have a record setting performance; bitch, complain, and critique away. That happened, it really did.

Just realize that is warranted for only one game. It can't be extrapolated to future games with a staff who is dedicated to fixing things and giving extremely talented players like Ricks both the tools and resources to do better.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:11 am to
quote:

LSU rivals 2019
There are 3 of them in this class (Ward, Raydar, and Flott)
And then there’s Evans with no stars as a HS player or transfer



Rivals sucks.

247 Composite had Raydar at 4*
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Nope, not true. Ward and Flott were 3* and Evans wasn't even rated. Let me guess...that still only makes 2 3* huh?


Yes. Thats still only 2 3*s.

I didn't count Evans because he shoudldn't be out there. That was a desperation grab by the staff.

Even if he's a 0*, he isn't a 3*. Which is the context of the post.
Posted by LSUTiger2020
Member since Jan 2020
343 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Yes. Thats still only 2 3*s.

I didn't count Evans because he shoudldn't be out there. That was a desperation grab by the staff.

Even if he's a 0*, he isn't a 3*. Which is the context of the post.


You are now dubbed "Pretzel Man" because you twisted yourself all over the place trying to spin and make excuses for a nonsense/false claim. Psst, a guy not rated at all is WORSE than a 3*. So once again, your statement that LSU has only 2 3* on the roster is bogus! Admit you screwed up and move on. Oh, and "I didn't count Evans because he shouldn't be out there." Seriously????
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 10:03 am to
quote:


You are now dubbed "Pretzel Man" because you twisted yourself all over the place trying to spin and make excuses for a nonsense/false claim. Psst, a guy not rated at all is WORSE than a 3*. So once again, your statement that LSU has only 2 3* on the roster is bogus! Admit you screwed up and move on. Oh, and "I didn't count Evans because he shouldn't be out there." Seriously????


I mean this is an odd take. Its really easy to think you're right when you ignore context.

LSU has 2 3* corners on the Roster. Thats a fact. They didn't recruit Evans when he was in hs. The ONLY reason he is on the team is because we are short handed.

The premise of the post was that we recruited too many 3* players. Make your point but its not related to the OP which mine is. But you can think you're so smart. Poor fella.
This post was edited on 9/29/20 at 10:07 am
Posted by LSUTiger2020
Member since Jan 2020
343 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

LSU has 2 3* corners on the Roster. Thats a fact.


No, it is NOT a fact. LSU has 2 3* CBs on the roster AND a guy who isn't even a 3*. A "Not rated" player is below 3* status. Thus, your original statement is wrong, NOT a fact. BTW, I don't have to be a genius to point out YOU made a mistake and apparently don't want to admit it. Evans is not a walkon which might have given you a pass. LSU ACCEPTED Evans and gave him a scholarship...'nuff said.
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

NOT a fact. BTW, I don't have to be a genius to point out YOU made a mistake and apparently don't want to admit it.


I didn't make a mistake. I didn't include Evans because in my mind he doesn't matter in the context of LSU recruiting too many 3* cornerbacks. LSU was desperate for a CB and they grabbed him. In the CONTEXT OF THE ORIGINAL POST, he is a non factor.

The original post was about LSU recruiting too many 3* corners. LSU HAS ONLY RECRUITED 2 3* CORNERS SINCE ED TOOK OVER. They are currently the only 2 on the roster.

Im not arguing that you are wrong. But I'm not wrong. We DO NOT recruit too many 3* corners.

How sad is it that you attack me because you can't understand what I'm saying.

You personify the term "rantard"
Posted by LSUTiger2020
Member since Jan 2020
343 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

I didn't make a mistake.


Yes you did make a mistake and Evans GOT a scholarship and he sure as hell WAS RECRUITED as a grad transfer WITH a scholarship. I did not attack you personally. I said you made a mistake and for some reason won't admit it. LSU has 3 CBs who never should have been recruited and more than 2 guys who are 3* (or lower). Since you called names first (rantard), I will counter with lying a-hole!
Posted by bayou85
Concordia
Member since Sep 2016
8622 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Since you called names first (rantard), I will counter with lying a-hole!


I did not lie and I didn't make a mistake. I DIDN"T INCLUDE HIM INTENTIONALLY!!

as i have stated. WHy is that hard for you to accept?

and yes you called me names before i did.
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
12883 posts
Posted on 9/29/20 at 3:59 pm to
Flott wasn’t highly recruited? If I recall Auburn tried hard to flip him. Also Flott played pretty damn well last year on a national championship team. Kentucky had offered Ward before us too I think. Neither are Sunbelt teams. Some of your guys takes are crazy.
This post was edited on 9/30/20 at 5:29 pm
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