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re: If we go 9-3 next year, are we having this exact same conversation?

Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by John Keating
College Green, Ireland
Member since Jan 2015
2593 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:23 pm to
I believe LSU fans will have the exact same conversation again until Les Miles brings another SEC championship or retires/is fired.

I do not believe LSU will win another SEC championship under Les Miles so I believe the conversation will persist until Miles retires/is fired in ____.
Posted by DmitriKaramazov
Member since Nov 2015
5600 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:23 pm to
Here's the problem. Les Miles has been the coach for eleven years. In ten of those years, he's lost two or more games. Three or more each of the last three seasons. There is no logical reason to expect a deviation from the pattern next year. And yet invariably, the Miles proponents offer some medley of excuses to absolve the coach of blame. If we go 9-3 next season, they'll just concoct some new brew of mitigating circumstances and rationalizations. And the cycle will continue unabated. Meanwhile, time passes, other teams win titles, and LSU FB slips into a deep and boring stupor. That, sadly, appears to be the state of things.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22027 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

Fans bitch when we win, fans bitch when we lose. Does it really matter what our record is?


Come on dude, you know it's a lot deeper than that this time more than ever before. Sure, a few would complain no matter what, but the fact is next year are we still going to hear the 'young QB' or 'young team' b.s.?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38937 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

It really depends on the losses and how they happened.
this. 9-3 isn't the issue. It's how we got there. If we look like garbage in November again I think he's gone.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78295 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:25 pm to
quote:

We have it and there is a lower buyout


By how much? I was wondering how much finances played into this.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
57051 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:25 pm to
If it is three SEC losses, I will be having it.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

If we go 9-3 next year, are we having this exact same conversation?

Depends.

9-3 with a vastly improved offense, a win over Alabama but a few close losses? No, we're not having this discussion.

9-3 with a vastly improved offense, a loss to Alabama but a crisis of injuries? No, we're not having this discussion.

9-3 with the same offense? Even WITH a win over Alabama, yes, we're having that discussion, IMO.
Posted by trom83
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2013
4724 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:28 pm to
The one thing we do know is that there is alot of great returning talent coming back next season and the #1 recruiting class. I have a feeling we will see a change in coaching, especially after Les Miles experienced this fiasco.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
78295 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:29 pm to
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9-3 with a vastly improved offense, a win over Alabama but a few close losses? No, we're not having this discussion.


If the offense is vastly improved and we win over bama the team won't be 9-3. Vastly improved offense and a win over bama you're looking at 11-1 with some bullshite loss to Arky.
Posted by double d
Amarillo by morning
Member since Jun 2004
17064 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:32 pm to
No, if there is so much talent and he goes 9-3 he'll be run off for real.
Posted by TigerMac81
Bossier City, LA
Member since Dec 2007
4432 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

the Miles proponents


These are more than proponents. They are like a Jonestown cult that hangs on every syllable of gibberish that emanates from Leslie's mouth. Just look at the personal and profane attacks that will be aimed at you if you dare to criticize their fearless leader on this board.
Posted by euquol
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2012
2736 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:37 pm to
I think this conversation starts when Wisconsin goes in dry and remembers not to stop running the ball in the first week of the season.
Posted by FightinTiga
Pumpkin Center
Member since Feb 2009
20745 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:38 pm to
Maybe it's time for LSU fans to temper expectations and accept mediocrity
Posted by Surv1vor1st
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2009
1674 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:39 pm to
It's not the record that is frustrating, it is the way we are losing the games.
Posted by longwayfromLA
NYC
Member since Nov 2007
3331 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:41 pm to
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These are more than proponents. They are like a Jonestown cult that hangs on every syllable of gibberish that emanates from Leslie's mouth. Just look at the personal and profane attacks that will be aimed at you if you dare to criticize their fearless leader on this board.


Or maybe the anti Les faction can never really answer the question of who should replace Les that A. could do better and B. would actually come here. So, who?
Posted by TigerBar
91°11'2" - 30°24'43"
Member since Nov 2011
134 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:44 pm to
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Or maybe the anti Les faction can never really answer the question of who should replace Les that A. could do better and B. would actually come here. So, who?


THIS
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3739 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:46 pm to
If we are irrelevant again in November things could get very very ugly.
Posted by lsu mike
Gonzales
Member since Sep 2006
8580 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:49 pm to
And put him on a pedestal over everything that is lsu
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:50 pm to
FIFY. When we go 9-3 are we having the exact same conversation?

Yes.

Posted by Duzz
Houston
Member since Feb 2008
10219 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:57 pm to
If those three loses came from any of the following team then yes. Alabama, Florida, Auburn, UGA, and Ole Miss.
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