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re: If we don't see MVB against SCe
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:13 pm to TigahTX
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:13 pm to TigahTX
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We saw Van Buren complete 10 of 12 pass attempts in game.
He also started games in the SEC last year against teams like Texas and Georgia. Go watch him in those games as a freshman.
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:52 pm to IM_4_LSU
quote:Stetson Bennett was the backup and Mathis was the 3rd string QB. I'm sure most teams would have a problem if they needed the 3rd string QB to come in.
Okay how about when Auburn benched Bo Nix and inserted TJ Finley? How about Georgia's Stetson Bennet getting benched and inserting D'Wan Mathis? Just because you pick a rare occasion where 1 team had 2 NFL starting QBs on their roster and it was success does not make it the norm. There are a lot more scenarios where it doesn't work then it working out.
Stetson Bennett the very next year came in again when JT Daniels got injured, and basically took his spot.
Trinidad Chambliss just took Austin Simmons's spot
Danny Etling took Brandon Harris's spot.
Connor Shaw took Stephen Garcia's spot at South Carolina and ushered in 3 straight 11-2 teams.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:15 pm to rds dc
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Maybe MVB is worse than an injured Nuss
Maybe he is, but I think at this point with the way Nuss and the entire offense are performing, you have to give him a shot.
If he plays and sucks, fine. But the current offense is so dysfunctional at every level, I think we’re at a point that we have to at least see is MVB can do something.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:36 pm to redfishfan
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He's a better runner than Jackson Arnold and more dynamic than Jaxon Dart but I love Dart's toughness running inside.
Hes not a better runner than Jackson Arnold or Jaxson Dart. Hes just not, thats not his game. Danny Etling was a mobile QB with good feet. He threw mainly check downs, slants, screens, and go balls. He wasn't an intermediate passer. MVB is similar. He has a strong arm and throws a good deep ball but hes not someone who is going to throw with anticipation in the intermediate passing game.
It won't be the same offense as JD5 because 1. He can't do what JD5 could. 2. Sloan doesn't know how to call an offense that sets up his team for success.
MVB has the potential to be an excellent QB but Offensive Coordinators can ruin talents when they're that bad. And right now Sloan is just that bad.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:41 pm to Ebridg3
It’s a Yankee thing…..
Stubborn coaches
DiNardo (keeping DC)
Miles (bunch formations)
Stubborn coaches
DiNardo (keeping DC)
Miles (bunch formations)
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:45 pm to Datbayoubengal
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Stetson Bennett was the backup and Mathis was the 3rd string QB. I'm sure most teams would have a problem if they needed the 3rd string QB to come in.
Stetson Bennett the very next year came in again when JT Daniels got injured, and basically took his spot.
Trinidad Chambliss just took Austin Simmons's spot
Danny Etling took Brandon Harris's spot.
Connor Shaw took Stephen Garcia's spot at South Carolina and ushered in 3 straight 11-2 teams.
We can go on all day about QBs being benched and backups coming in. You want to say what your point is? Or are you wanting me to guess that you bringing that up means you want Nuss benched because in your mind thats going to solve the offensive issues?
If and when Nuss is sat down the offense is not going to be solved because the issues on the offense are not Nuss. The injury is impacting his play but the offensive system as a whole is broken. But everyone just wants to point to the backup QB. When the offense remains awful then everyones going to clamour for Hurley. The problem is the system and it looks worse because your QB who bailed you out is now hurt and can no longer do so. SMH
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:47 pm to cajunkid
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Jayden Daniel’s was hot garbage at Arizona State too…
Go look at JD's FR season stat line and then reconsider your comment.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:47 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Need a different play caller to maximize MVB's talents/strengths.
Maybe MVB fits the current playbook better.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:47 pm to rds dc
He didn’t have the team behind him then that he does now.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/30/25 at 2:48 pm to rds dc
He was at MSU. They may as well have had high schoolers out there last year
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:09 pm to bayouboo
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Maybe MVB fits the current playbook better.
He doesn't. Thats why he struggled so bad in the scrimmages and practice. But you know which offense would be great for his skill set? Lane Kiffin's. The focus on overs, digs, posts, back shoulder, and go routes would fit everything MVB does well in the passing game. Hes also athletic enough to be effective in the RPO split reads with receivers or tight ends in the flats.
I wish we would run more of that but we really don't. Even last year with a healthy Nuss we didn't. Even on one of the few times we did run it we had a lot of success with that type of play. The big pass play to Aaron Anderson last year against Ole Miss in the 3rd quarter was a deep over route. Beautifully thrown too.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 4:53 pm to The Godfather
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And sometimes he is better, case in point, the QB that beat us last weekend was the backup. He got playing time because the starter was injured. What a concept.
Yeah…sometimes. Of course. The coaches know what they have. We don’t.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:03 pm to biglego
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It sometimes happens in football that the backup is not as good. Hence being a backup. Are you familiar with this game of football?
The staff needs to look at themselves because they literally have nothing but poor QBs on the roster. They don’t escape responsibility.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:10 pm to Ebridg3
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overwhelming strategy against LSU on 3rd and long right now is to drop 7 or 8 and that is yielding over a 70% success rate. A scrambling QB erases that strategy immediately.
No it doesn’t, and to say it does is absolutely stupid….
It would be very easy to rush 2 or3, and have a middle linebacker playing a middle underneath zone and spying the QB.
If the QB is athletic enough to beat him,
They may have to rethink strategy…
But there is absolutely no way you can say playing MVB erases any strategy.
Could he be an answer?
Sure it’s possible. But far from certain
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:19 pm to mwade91383
Probably scenario, I agree. However I hope I am wrong about Nuss and he surprises me. We have 2 weeks to get better on offense, will be interesting to see what BK comes up with.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:31 pm to rds dc
Give MVB the resources Nuss had and the numbers might be better. He couldn't have played worse than Nuss did this weekend.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:32 pm to Datsmoneydude
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m all camp reports mvb couldn’t complete passes against air
Also camp reports said we could run the ball?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 5:37 pm to Ebridg3
Burrow was a backup at Ohio State.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:04 pm to TigahTX
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Bringing up camp reports when the season is already a quarter of the way over is lazy. We saw Van Buren complete 10 of 12 pass attempts in game.
I’m all for trying MVB out…
But wouldn’t you say our camp defenses are a little closer to what he’ll see than the SELA defense is?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 6:33 pm to rds dc
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Maybe MVB is worse than an injured Nuss? Last season, he was 1-7 as a starter. He threw 11 TD but also 7 INT and had 69 rushes for -12 yards.
Dumb comment. Leaving out a ton of necessary information here and solely focusing on the negative, aka you're a bitch. Let's breakdown why this comment is low IQ:
- Sack yardage goes into that. Taking out sacks, he was vastly positive in rushing yards
- He scored 20+ points in 5 of 8 SEC games. Nuss has yet to score 19+ points in 3 Power 4 games. Albeit most MVB was in the 24 pt range, he was working with lesser offensive talent.
- In the 8 games he played, 6 were top 20 opponents
- His first 2 starts were on the road vs Top 5 teams
- He played no cucpake game, solely SEC schedule
- His surrounding talent was horrible at Miss St in 2024
- By far the most important stat for a QB is YPA. He averaged 7.4 in a sole SEC slate. Nuss has averaged 6.0 verse Power 4 teams
- Most obviously, he was a true freshman. Compare how MVB did vs a sole SEC slate to what Underwood did vs OU and even Nebraska
So, no. Nuss injured is definitively not a better option. There is 0 reason not to start him.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 6:39 pm
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