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re: If we don't see MVB against SCe
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:12 am to SaveFarris
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:12 am to SaveFarris
You realize Van Buren played multiple games against some of the best SEC defenses last year with a horrible o line? He has some experience. Nuss is a second year starter 5 year senior and can’t beat a drop 8 defense
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Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:13 am to rds dc
quote:Moo St wasn't a team with a lot of talent. MVB was also a true freshman. Maybe, just maybe, he's learned some things since last season.
Last season, he was 1-7 as a starter. He threw 11 TD but also 7 INT and had 69 rushes for -12 yards.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:49 am to jasonbr1975
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Says Nick Saban, 'Hey, get Tua in here and let's win this Natty!'
Okay how about when Auburn benched Bo Nix and inserted TJ Finley? How about Georgia's Stetson Bennet getting benched and inserting D'Wan Mathis? Just because you pick a rare occasion where 1 team had 2 NFL starting QBs on their roster and it was success does not make it the norm. There are a lot more scenarios where it doesn't work then it working out.
Also in that scenario Bama was an elite team with a very good rushing attack. We are a poorly coached offensive team that has issues accross the board. You insert MVB and that kid is going to have a very rough go of things because of how bad the offensive system is. There is a reason he has looked very bad in practice. Our offenisve system is not he does well. And hes not the dynamic runner people think he is. Hes mobile but hes not even Chambliss in terms of his mobility/quickness. Will not be good there are too many issues with this offensive system as a whole.
If Nuss does end up sitting out due to the injury then its going to be a real rough go for a while because the offensive issues are not going to be solved with MVB in the lineup.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:57 am to rds dc
If he’s worse than an injured Nuss, I then ask why is he here??
Posted on 9/30/25 at 8:59 am to TigahTX
MVB impressed me last year on a god awful State team. The kid can play, and the offense can’t look much worse
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:03 am to IM_4_LSU
TJ Finley? 
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:06 am to tiger91
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If he’s worse than an injured Nuss, I then ask why is he here??
It is tiresome watching LSU bring in players and keep them on the bench even to the point of losing games. The coaching effort to win games seems missing lot of the times.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 9:07 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:31 am to rds dc
Meh...MVB was a TF last year playing on a horrible team that severely lacked talent. He was sacked 27 times last season. M St. didn't call running plays for him because he was the backup and they couldn't risk injury and have to put the 3rd string guy in.
All that being said, Nuss was just as bad early on, if not worse. Nuss had a pretty solid 4th season but he still has 12 int's. MVB was on a bad team and didn't have the luxury of being in the offense for years and having the WR's Nuss had last year.
MVB is no JD5 but at full health, if he isn't as good as a clearly injured Nuss then he shouldn't be on the team. MVB can make EVERY throw that Nuss has been woefully short on. He could possibly stretch the field because OM blanketed the middle and sat on short routes.
All that being said, Nuss was just as bad early on, if not worse. Nuss had a pretty solid 4th season but he still has 12 int's. MVB was on a bad team and didn't have the luxury of being in the offense for years and having the WR's Nuss had last year.
MVB is no JD5 but at full health, if he isn't as good as a clearly injured Nuss then he shouldn't be on the team. MVB can make EVERY throw that Nuss has been woefully short on. He could possibly stretch the field because OM blanketed the middle and sat on short routes.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:35 am to Ebridg3
Kelly is still holding that little gleamer of light that Nuss can turn it on and be a contender for the Heisman Trophy… it’s one main reason Nuss came back to LSU to win it and raise his draft stock…at this moment the Ole Miss Qb Chambliss has as much a chance to be in NY than Nussmier
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 9:37 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:54 am to rds dc
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Maybe MVB is worse than an injured Nuss? Last season, he was 1-7 as a starter. He threw 11 TD but also 7 INT and had 69 rushes for -12 yards.
Nuss has 7 TDs and 3 Ints. this year along with -17 rush yards. State was a pathetic 2-10 team last year and he was starting as a true freshman. For a true freshman with little talent around him, he put up good numbers. He threw for 300+ yards and 3 TDs against UGA. He threw for another 3 TDs against aTm. Could you see Nuss putting up those numbers as things are right now? Even against Ole Miss last year, he threw for 280+ yards and had two TDs (one rushing and one passing) even with State only having 32 rushing yards for the game. We had 254 yards as a team against Ole Miss this year.
He started the final 8 games last year and put up some big numbers against some good teams as a true freshman. With our offense looking abysmal, he at least needs to be given a shot to see if anything changes with him in there. See if there is some kind of spark with anything he does because what we have right now is completely not working.
This post was edited on 9/30/25 at 9:54 am
Posted on 9/30/25 at 9:59 am to rds dc
Did you actually watch him play? That was a really bad state team.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:02 am to Pauvetibete
Etling was a tough SOB.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:05 am to Ebridg3
Something to also ponder in this discussion is Nuss averages 1.5 turnovers a game in SEC games.
Given that fact, and the fact that this team is the only team to not have scored 20 or more against a power 4 team, it's a worthwhile thought exercise. What does the offense have to lose?
Given that fact, and the fact that this team is the only team to not have scored 20 or more against a power 4 team, it's a worthwhile thought exercise. What does the offense have to lose?
Posted on 9/30/25 at 10:15 am to tarzana
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quote:Danny Etling offense. A lot of screens and checkdowns and deep shots. And with no running game the offense will be very tough to watch How is this worse than the current situation?
It’s not. It’s also not any better. The point is the offense isn’t getting fixed midseason. Almost every offensive player is confused about his assignment on every play. That’s coaching, and the current staff is clearly incapable of teaching them. I’ve never seen anything like it.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:16 am to rds dc
Jayden Daniel’s was hot garbage at Arizona State too…
Posted on 9/30/25 at 11:35 am to IM_4_LSU
No one can actually predict how MVB will perform until he actually gets real playing time against an SEC team. If Nuss cannot perform any better than he did against Ole Miss we will lose for sure to TAM, Bama & Oklahoma and possibly Vandy so playing MVB has no down side if we lose either way. Keep losing with Nuss and possibly jeopardize his pro career if he is really hurt. Throwing into double and triple coverage does not relate to a physical injury but something mental.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 12:59 pm to eod
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Throwing into double and triple coverage does not relate to a physical injury but something mental.
1 pass. You realize QBs of all talents make that mistake. And actually if you are hurt in the core then you aren't going to make throws that require you to rotate no matter the distance. Which is why on the drags and check downs he does throw he tries to use all arm. Because in order to make the throw accurate you have to rotate your body and thats painful.
But regardless if you watch him throw and don't believe hes injured then idk what else to say because the proof is literally in the grimacing after the throws and how the ball dies if its thrown downfield. Thats physical. And when you're hurt everything becomes impacted. Because you want to get rid of the ball quickly to avoid taking a hit and you want to avoid certain throws that require you to rotate because that also causes pain.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:03 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Okay how about when Auburn benched Bo Nix and inserted TJ Finley?
I get it. I'm not in disagreement. That's why I said, it's not a one-fix thing. There are multiple other variables to this problem.
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:03 pm to Ebridg3
If not I'm done with kelly
Posted on 9/30/25 at 1:11 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Hes also not the Dynamic runner everyone thinks he is. He is very mobile and athletic but hes not Marcel Reed, Jaxson Dart, Jaxson Arnold, or even Chambliss.
He's a better runner than Jackson Arnold and more dynamic than Jaxon Dart but I love Dart's toughness running inside.
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You will see an Anthony jennings or Danny Etling offense
Why would we see the offense of a non dual threat QB? Etling ran an under center speed sweep based offense. There is 0% chance we go to this. I think you'd see the same offense JD5 ran . MVB has a strong enough arm to make all the throws. He obviously won't be JD5 and we wont be even a top 25 offense with him but he's certainly better than injured Nuss.
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