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re: If the orgeron experiment goes wrong how would you feel about Aranda being promoted?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:28 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:28 am to Topwater Trout
Would any school in the country other than LSU hired O as head coach last year? No.
If Aranda actively pursued a head coach job, a school would have hired him.
It’s amazing that Aranda stuck around this year.
If Aranda actively pursued a head coach job, a school would have hired him.
It’s amazing that Aranda stuck around this year.
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Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:48 am to Space Cowboy
Yeah are you a friend of his family? How do you know what he would and wouldn’t do? So he wouldn’t take a promotion?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 11:51 am to Nomojeaux
I think so. But do we want to be the same program we were when Les was here or do we want more? If orgeron does the same three loss season again next year I think serious questions start. Also it’s not just about the games it’s about the circus act going on.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:10 pm to Tesla
We go see em every year in Pensacola. Mad respect for those dudes and all our military.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:22 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:well orgeron failed epically at his first head coaching job. Aranda hasn’t had a chance yet. I’d be willing to give him a chance over someone who failed miserably once before.
You tell me what a qualified head coach is. You don’t see the hypocrisy in saying it when we hired O yet ignoring it wanting to promote Aranda?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:24 pm to geauxtigers33
Does Saban have rah rah in him? I'm not saying hire Aranda but your rah rah statement is BS.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:25 pm to tigersquad89
So we’re going to hire a guy with zero head coaching experience just because he happens to be a fantastic coordinator?
Jesus people.
Jesus people.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:27 pm to elprez00
quote:we hired a d line coach who failed miserably in his only other head coaching job. Aranda at least has success coordinating a defense. O never coordinated anything. Aranda would be a step up
o we’re going to hire a guy with zero head coaching experience just because he happens to be a fantastic coordinator?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:29 pm to tigersquad89
If Aranda keeps putting players on one side of the ball into the NFL at a high level, he would be a fine recruiter. Now he might not know or be ready for some of the more unseen responsibilities and pressures, but I think he could adapt and do it. He seems like a calm and organized guy. You have an entire staff to help recruit. I'm sure Aranda is good enough to close.
Winning games wins recruiting a lot of times as well. I would rather Aranda learn and struggle with the job subtleties for a year or so because at least you know at the end of the day that he absolutely locks down one side of the field.
Winning games wins recruiting a lot of times as well. I would rather Aranda learn and struggle with the job subtleties for a year or so because at least you know at the end of the day that he absolutely locks down one side of the field.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:30 pm to tigersquad89
Completely fine
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:42 pm to atltiger6487
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Aranda has no experience as a head coach, at any level.
Tom Osborne, Joe Paterno, Barry Switzer, and Jimbo Fisher all won national titles at their first gig.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 1:54 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:Failing miserably at building a team shouldn't qualify anyone for coach at LSU. Thanks Joe.
If and when O is fired wouldn’t our fans be less willing to take a chance with a guy who isn’t “qualified”?
You tell me what a qualified head coach is.
quote:At least Dave knows one side of the ball, and isn't clueless about football strategy.
You don’t see the hypocrisy in saying it when we hired O yet ignoring it wanting to promote Aranda?
Terrible coaching experience is not better than no experience, if the candidate knows football.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:18 pm to tigersquad89
I’d love it because I think Aranda is a hell of a coaching mind and a helluva smart guy.
I have no idea if Aranda would want to be a HC at a big time cfb program though. I see him as a multi decade DC. Not sure if he’d rather work and develop young guys or pros but he seems to have more a teacher’s personality as opposed to a rag rah guy.
I have no idea if Aranda would want to be a HC at a big time cfb program though. I see him as a multi decade DC. Not sure if he’d rather work and develop young guys or pros but he seems to have more a teacher’s personality as opposed to a rag rah guy.
This post was edited on 12/30/17 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:25 pm to Mayhawman
Are you saying a guy who has coached and played football all his life doesn’t know football? Pete Jenkins has coached football all his life and I can assure you he knows more than plenty of coaches. C’mon man think before you make comments. It’s also moronic to say defensive coaches don’t know offense and Vice versa...they scheme to stop the other side so they know about all phases of the game.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:27 pm to Bestbank Tiger
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Tom Osborne, Joe Paterno, Barry Switzer, and Jimbo Fisher all won national titles at their first gig.
And? Do you need a list of head coaches who failed at their first gig?
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:35 pm to elprez00
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So we’re going to hire a guy with zero head coaching experience just because he happens to be a fantastic coordinator? Jesus people.
Well, Alleva hired a d-line coach with very little head coaching experience and a terrible track record just because Tom Herman upset him by wanting to listen to another schools offer before signing with LSU, so I'd say we've done far crazier things than hiring a highly intelligent and extremely effective DC!
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:38 pm to OGJangalang
How is a coach with no head coaching experience qualified? The entire argument about O is that he wasn’t qualified and you want to hire a guy less qualified 
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:40 pm to tigersquad89
Yes please
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:44 pm to jrodLSUke
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The formula for LSU is: hire a proven HC from a P5 conference.
3 of the 4 coaches in this years CFB playoff had no prior HC before being hired by their respective programs. The exception? Nick Saban - who proved himself finishing 5th, 5th, 6th, 6th and T-2nd and going 0-3 in bowl games in 5 seasons in the Big 10.
Posted on 12/30/17 at 2:48 pm to tigersquad89
If he is a strong recruiter, I would be fine with it. I think he'd be a solid CEO over the program and would hire the right coaches and allow them to do their job. His expert knowledge of defenses would also allow him to retain the role akin to what Saban had for years at Alabama. The big question I have though is whether or not he's a good recruiter. That's a sine qua non, imo.
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