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re: If Schmidt can go out and prove he has the stamina
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:47 pm to SoloTiger
Posted on 3/6/25 at 1:47 pm to SoloTiger
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Gonna have to use a piggy back model IMO, as I don't expect any of these weekend starters to go 6-7 complete consistently
First, I don't know what you are seeing that would make you suggest that we don't have starters capable of going longer than 5 innings.
Second, this "piggy back" thing is another rant think tank thing. Let's say it's determined Schmidt is long reliever option 1, and Ware is long reliever option 2, Cowar is short relif option 1, Guidry, short relief 2 and Rizzy closing. (Not saying this is what it is, or it's what I think... But just for the sake of argument).
Anderson gives you 6 solid and LSU is holding an 8-1 lead. You don't have to burn Cowan because he's the "piggy back" guy to Anderson.
You hold a 3-2 lead in the 5th and it's time to pull Shores and it's a left handed heavy line up. You don't just use Schmidt bc he's the piggy back, with a lefty Ware available.
That's just examples of why y'all repeating this won't happen, nor will it work. Each game will flow differently and have different needs.
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Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:16 pm to subidc
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He could give you a start in Omaha if needed kind of like Hurd did though.
he will be needed at the end of the year when you need pitching for 4 or 5 days like the SECT, Regionals, or Omaha.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:31 pm to TopWaterTiger
I think Scmidt plays the Griffin Herring role to start the year.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:35 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Of course when the bullets start flying plans have to adjust.
I just think this is how the coaches are looking at things. Could be wrong.
But what makes you think any of these starters are going to go 6 or 7 complete vs an SEC team? I don't see it happening with any consistency, so you better have 2-3 guys on a weekend that can provide long relief.
Just my thoughts after what I have seen so far.
I just think this is how the coaches are looking at things. Could be wrong.
But what makes you think any of these starters are going to go 6 or 7 complete vs an SEC team? I don't see it happening with any consistency, so you better have 2-3 guys on a weekend that can provide long relief.
Just my thoughts after what I have seen so far.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 2:36 pm to geaux2019
Our best scenario is that the 3 guys we have remain good enough to be weekend starters, AND Schmidt, Ware, and Cowan all show that they deserve a shot, too.
It is a luxury to have 3 guys like Schmidt, Ware, Williams, and Cowan as inning eaters to back up the starters in the event that they falter, as well as step in as a mid-week starter.
If you remember last year, Griffin Herring was as good as anybody we had by the end of the season, and we had two 2nd round pitchers. But his role was the guy to come in and shut down the other team and eat up innings when one of our starters didn't go deep.
Ackenhausen was supposed to be in that same role, but Thatcher Hurd crashed and burned early in the season and we had to put Ack in the starter role. We didn't have the luxury of using Ack as a mid-game substitute.
It would be awesome if we had 3 dominant guys in that role, to get the ball to Evans, Rizy, Noot, Guidry, Benge, Primeaux, and now, Dorsey to finish.
All of these guys have great stuff and will spend time on the bump if they can prove that they can find the strike zone on a regular basis.
It is a luxury to have 3 guys like Schmidt, Ware, Williams, and Cowan as inning eaters to back up the starters in the event that they falter, as well as step in as a mid-week starter.
If you remember last year, Griffin Herring was as good as anybody we had by the end of the season, and we had two 2nd round pitchers. But his role was the guy to come in and shut down the other team and eat up innings when one of our starters didn't go deep.
Ackenhausen was supposed to be in that same role, but Thatcher Hurd crashed and burned early in the season and we had to put Ack in the starter role. We didn't have the luxury of using Ack as a mid-game substitute.
It would be awesome if we had 3 dominant guys in that role, to get the ball to Evans, Rizy, Noot, Guidry, Benge, Primeaux, and now, Dorsey to finish.
All of these guys have great stuff and will spend time on the bump if they can prove that they can find the strike zone on a regular basis.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 3:08 pm to Jax-Tiger
Cowan is the guy jay trusts the most. You can tell that already. And honestly I trust him the most too. He eats inning, throws strikes and is just a solid pitcher all around.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 7:33 pm to Datsmoneydude
I love Cowan. Great pitch-ability.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:21 pm to bayoubengal014
Starters: Anderson, Eyanson, Shores
Middle Relief: Cowan, Schmidt, Benge, Ware
Closer: Evans, Guidry, Rizzy
So far from what we have seen, these are the 10 we are rolling with on the weekend (if Guidry returns up to speed).
All of the middle relief and even Evans and Guidry could be ready by season end to start a tournament/Omaha game if needed.
Middle Relief: Cowan, Schmidt, Benge, Ware
Closer: Evans, Guidry, Rizzy
So far from what we have seen, these are the 10 we are rolling with on the weekend (if Guidry returns up to speed).
All of the middle relief and even Evans and Guidry could be ready by season end to start a tournament/Omaha game if needed.
Posted on 3/6/25 at 8:36 pm to tigerbru17
They will need a 3rd LHP, either Williams or Primeaux to pitch significant pitches in matchup situations
And Dorsey will likely get a follow up this weekend to see how real that outing was
And Dorsey will likely get a follow up this weekend to see how real that outing was
Posted on 3/7/25 at 6:32 am to Lester Earl
Agree. They are really pushing Primeaux.
I think Williams will emerge as the one.
I think Williams will emerge as the one.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 7:16 am to AlwysATgr
SEC play is going to be different. All of our pitchers will have to step it up. Like it or not we have good pitching with lots of arms. We are accustomed to guarantee wins from great pitching in the past. On the other hand, we have a great lineup and are capable of great defense and scoring offense. Going to be fun.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 8:11 am to ulmtiger
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SEC play is going to be different. All of our pitchers will have to step it up. Like it or not we have good pitching with lots of arms.
It is going to come down to whether they can throw strikes. The first couple of weeks, everyone was throwing strikes and we had no trouble.
If you DON'T throw strikes, even lowly NDSU can bite you and almost did.
Early in the season, guys were not worried that PUFW was going to hit their stuff. Once the competition gets better and they need to worry about staying away from the middle of the plate, it becomes more difficult to throw strikes, especially since the strike zone is going to get tighter in the SEC season.
Of course, if you have a 95+ mph fastball and a 82 mph curve, you can cut loose and not worry about it as much. That is what we have. These guys have to avoid staying out of trouble and not walk to many runners because they are trying to nibble at the edges of the strike zone, too much. They can't be afraid to give up hits and end up giving up walks.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:35 am to tigerbru17
If Guidry is used as a closer, I like Rizzy relieving Eyanson. His fastball contrasts Eyanson's stuff pretty well.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 9:59 am to geaux2019
We need reliable arms that can come out of the pen and give us a strong innings. I’d much rather have him out of the bullpen this year unless things drastically change
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:00 am to FredbullTN
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Where does this narrative come from? Anderson and Eyanson aren’t that much different in terms of their velocity. Not enough to consider one a hard thrower and the other not.
Anderson is a lefty.
The entire conversation doesn't really make sense when you think about it that way.
I haven't formed my opinion on Eyanson yet. My first thought was that he would be the guy that struggled most.
But, his pitch mix is a little bit more advanced than the others. It wouldn't surprise me if he's the kind of guy that can pitch around baserunners better than the others.
Anderson needs to show he can be effective later into games. If he can, I think we are fine whether Eyanson sticks or Schmitt or Ware end up starting.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:15 am to moneyg
Beck is another lefty that showed promise in his first action Wednesday as well...
Posted on 3/7/25 at 10:18 am to LSUGrad9295
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No. Keep Eyanson in the middle. It is a good balance of hard thrower/not as hard of a thrower/very hard thrower.
Everyone throws hard besides Cowan. You can give different looks more effectively with arm slots & pitch shapes more than velocity anyway. If you don’t have good stuff you aren’t getting anyone out in the SEC anyway.
Posted on 3/7/25 at 3:34 pm to Tifway419
Depends on matchups and defensive lineup. I’m sure you’d want to use a setup guy to go lefty vs lefty or righty vs righty. Hopefully we get more consistent play from our catchers. Like to see all three stop balls from getting to the backstop.
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