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If CBK were still at ND with NIL, ND would win a natty and be a perennial powerhouse.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:37 am
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:37 am
He jetted too soon.
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Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:37 am to TigerProphet
COPE
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:38 am to TigerProphet
Are you trying to convince the world or yourself?
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:42 am to TigerProphet
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:47 am to TigerProphet
Maybe. But I’m glad he’s our coach now.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 11:56 am to TigerProphet
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If CBK were still at ND with NIL, ND would win a natty and be a perennial powerhouse.
Genuinely curious why he could have done it at ND but can't do it at LSU?
LSU has more recent success, a lot more fertile local recruiting, lower academic standards for athlete admission, and money for NIL. What does ND have that LSU doesn't?
The two big excuses are "39 scholarship players" and "SEC" but both of those dogs don't hunt.
For the "39 scholarship players" he's now had 3 cycles to rectify it with transfers. If this was 5+ years ago that would make sense, but with access to the portal you can essentially get a new team in a year (see Indiana and Colorado).
For the "SEC" excuse it's either the "toughest conference in America" or "had a down year this season" depending on the argument. If it's the toughest conference in America, Freeman needs some credit for knocking off 2 SEC teams this season, including the champion. If it's a down year, then what is BK's excuse for losing 3 SEC games?
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:04 pm to TigerProphet
The truth here is that ND's success is both a testament to Brian Kelly building an extremely solid base for Marcus Freeman to take over AND Marcus Freeman is a very good coach. LSU is not at the same point as Notre Dame right now because it takes more than 3 years to build a program from where BK had to start here. Notre Dame's current success has nothing to do with LSU, but I think it does point out how much having a solid base of recruiting for several years continuously with supplemental portal adds is enough to win playoff games. We're getting there. Marcus Freeman is a great coach who happened o be born on 3rd base.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:10 pm to TigerProphet
So now the narrative is that he actually had more available to him at ND than he does LSU?
Mental gymnastics.
Mental gymnastics.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:12 pm to TigerProphet
Probably not. He had his chances there.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:14 pm to TigerProphet
This will remain an unknown..so, CBK needs to maximize the hand that he was dealt
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:14 pm to iamandykeim
This is a rational and accurate take. Prepare to be downvoted into oblivion. 
Posted on 1/10/25 at 12:15 pm to TigerProphet
He probably would've won one there but he didn't. And probably has a more difficult task in winning one here. Hopefully that doesn't get to his head.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:33 pm to iwyLSUiwy
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So now the narrative is that he actually had more available to him at ND than he does LSU?
Mental gymnastics.
And an easier schedule
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:39 pm to Cuz413
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And an easier schedule
ND and LSU had two common opponents this year. ND went 2-0 vs them and LSU went 0-2. They're a good football team that could have competed in the SEC. Certainly would have done better than LSU.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 1:48 pm to iwyLSUiwy
I was pointing out that in addition to this alleged plethora of talent at ND, BK would have an easier path as well.
They are definitely peaking right now and play very physical on both sides of the ball.
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They're a good football team that could have competed in the SEC
They are definitely peaking right now and play very physical on both sides of the ball.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:00 pm to Cuz413
I got ya, misunderstood that 
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:05 pm to TigerProphet
And we get the Riley?
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:31 pm to lionward2014
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LSU has more recent success, a lot more fertile local recruiting, lower academic standards for athlete admission, and money for NIL. What does ND have that LSU doesn't?
While this is true and accurate, we’re missing a key component - the events of 2020. With the untimely departure of Will Wade and O, it put a cloud over LSU athletics. We, as fans, may refuse to believe that but if you’re a budding prospect going to a school coming out of a scandal isn’t ideal. Many want to see how the new coach works out.
Second, LSU was about broke when BK took the helm. Buyouts for Wade & O, plus Mulkey and Johnson got new contracts, and then there was the sex scandal and settlements. LSU didn’t have much in the coffers for BK to throw together a team with NIL. Clearly, with the work he’s done this offseason that isn’t the case any more.
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:32 pm to TigerProphet
Ah yes this is evident by Kelly’s success at lsu in this era
Posted on 1/10/25 at 2:45 pm to thejuiceisloose
Kelly left ND because he knew he couldn't get the horses he needed to beat the Bamas, Clemson's and GA's of the world back then, Of course he didn't forsee the cluster it's become with NIL and the portal. So those teams that were dominant because they stacked so much talent on the sidelines are no longer there. OSU is one of the few teams left with that but even they will eventually lose that edge due to NIL and portal. So in this new age of college football ND has a better chance of winning a NC than they did when Kelly was there and it has nothing to do with who the coach is but the Kelly haters want you to believe that.
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