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re: I see the argument that WW couldn't talk to his bosses because of a potential subpoena

Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:23 pm to
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You know that LSU admin talked to lawyers before requesting the meeting.




Of course. Alleva is probably following the advice of our Uber conservative NCAA compliance department. But they are not the end all be all. It is/was possible to be NCAA compliant and still allow WW to coach and Smart to play.

Now we are just looking guilty by Alleva’s actions based on innuendo and unfounded assumptions in a Pat Ford Yahoo Sports article. Why not make decisions to suspend and withhold playing time based on facts instead of news media stories?
Posted by TOKEN
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:24 pm to
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Of course they didn’t have to suspend him. That’s silly


Exactly, the FBI case is perfect cover to kick the can down the road. Wades giving both sides a way out. Just say LSU is waiting for the FBI investigation to conclude so they have all the facts.
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:29 pm to
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Exactly, the FBI case is perfect cover to kick the can down the road. Wades giving both sides a way out. Just say LSU is waiting for the FBI investigation to conclude so they have all the facts.


Right. If NCAA discovers that violations were committed the NCAA is not going to give us brownie points for self flagellation.
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:29 pm to
Again, hypocrite.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:35 pm to
It’s impressive how proud you are of your stupidity and insist on sharing it with everyone.

Tell us more about how Lsu athletics only makes $16 million per year and isn’t financially independent from the university.
Posted by nvasil1
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:35 pm to
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Why not make decisions to suspend and withhold playing time based on facts instead of news media stories?

Given his handling of the Duke lacrosse situation, Alleva apparently has a problem with this approach.
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:41 pm to

Advice of counsel, right?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:44 pm to
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Advice of counsel, right?




I assume LSU's legal team told them to request the meeting, yes.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:49 pm to
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I assume LSU's legal team told them to request the meeting, yes.
Means nothing but okay. You can keep assuming random things with zero evidence if it makes you feel better
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:53 pm to
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You can keep assuming random things with zero evidence if it makes you feel better


Like WW actually did this all as a plan to avoid making Alleva be subpoenaed?

Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:53 pm to
We all know where you stand on this subject, you really here just to stir the pot but I’ll bite....

When this hit in October,I’d bet there was a meeting with Alleva and Wade. Wade assures him it’s all good and going to be OK, Alleva reports back to his superiors & he stayed on as coach.

Then when this hit last week, The uppers are like WTF!!!!get Alleva and Wade in here now. At which time Wade’s people moved in and said STFU, therefore no meeting.

Hence the knee jerk reaction by LSU to suspend Wade and the vauge reason for Smart to sit.

Just my thoughts on how it played out.

ETA: I’m on the frick it side of the fence, Boot up and let’s roll.
Posted by magicman0001
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:57 pm to
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Then why not meet with your bosses?


I actually have no problem with your OP. They have to stay quiet. But seriously, I'm sure you know WHY he can't meet with his boss even though he's not being investigated.

The NCAA investigation is coming as soon as the FBI trials are over, and possibly sooner. Depending on how much is released and at what point in time it get's released. Since this is still an ongoing matter, the FBI isn't going to release much, if anything. They've already told the NCAA this.

So you keep quiet and avoid the subject in conversation (as you've said) A. Because there's an NCAA investigation coming soon, and B) You're subpoenaed to testify in court.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:57 pm to
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Hence the knee jerk reaction by LSU to suspend Wade and the vauge reason for Smart to sit.


That's not a knee jerk reaction.

If you tell your boss x, then six months later y comes out... they want to know wtf, and you say kick rocks.

You're gonna have a suspension
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 5:59 pm to
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Like WW actually did this all as a plan to avoid making Alleva be subpoenaed?
I don’t know where that idea is coming from. I’ve never said that. The admin called a meeting based off of media reports. Probably because they are the type of people that think they always have to be doing something, even if it’s something dumb. Wade’s lawyer told him not to talk about the case. End of story.


And I’m still not convinced the missed meeting was the reason he was suspended considering that only came out through some ridiculous leak that some poster on here got from a board member on a phone call

And I’ll remind you that was well after the news of the suspension. It’s just bullshite to try to cover their asses and idiots like you are eating it up. There is zero reason to believe the administration on this issue. They do not have LSU’s best interests at heart. Everything they do revolves around satisfying their own vanity.
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:01 pm to
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The admin called a meeting based off of media reports.


No.

They called one because their lawyers said to. Do you think they're making decisions without legal counsel?
Posted by UnoMe
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:02 pm to
Knee jerk? Alleva was handling and then the uppers wants to meet. After a yahoo report that makes LSU look bad. When this has already came out 4 months ago.
This post was edited on 3/10/19 at 6:04 pm
Posted by xiv
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Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:03 pm to
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Wade simply cannot talk about the case.
But his employer needs him to.

So what do you think is going to happen since an employee cannot meet the reasonable demands of his employer?
Posted by CptBengal
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:03 pm to
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I actually have no problem with your OP. They have to stay quiet. But seriously, I'm sure you know WHY he can't meet with his boss even though he's not being investigated.


Of course.

Which is why you show yo the meeting and say I can't talk about this.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:07 pm to
The fact that you think Wade would share details about all of this with his players is a bit ridiculous. Or that they would expect him to give details.

The meeting with Alleva was obviously to discuss everything, in detail.


You missed the mark with this one. Shocker.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 3/10/19 at 6:08 pm to
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So what do you think is going to happen since an employee cannot meet the reasonable demands of his employer?
You can bicker all day and night about “reasonable demands.” The simple fact is that they decided to suspend an extremely successful coach during one of the programs most successful seasons in history just before the post season. They have to deal with the backlash of that decision. The backlash being the hatred of their fan base and having their names drug through the mud and demonized, and rightfully so in my opinion.
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