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I like pitching to Mendoza As a rah rah, we got this moment
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:20 am
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:20 am
As a rah rah, we got this, LEGO, strike this motherfricker out moment
Strategically, I don’t know how someone could argue for pitching to him
You gotta pick your spots with that kind of shite, and that was a horrible spot to do it in
Strategically, I don’t know how someone could argue for pitching to him
You gotta pick your spots with that kind of shite, and that was a horrible spot to do it in
This post was edited on 6/10/19 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:22 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Do you know the statistics of the hitter on deck?
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:22 am to Penrod
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Do you know the statistics of the hitter on deck?
Yes, I also know that he is a streaky hitter in the midst of a postseason long slump
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:23 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
The pass ball was the bigger mistake.
Mendoza was all or nothing this weekend.
He just missed a 405 homerun but other than that, he was kept in check.
Only reason to walk him was to set up a force but you had two outs and two strikes on him.
The pitch was way to good for that situation. I don't know where the pitch was called but it should not have been right down the heart of the plate. You pound it outside and make him chase.
Mendoza was all or nothing this weekend.
He just missed a 405 homerun but other than that, he was kept in check.
Only reason to walk him was to set up a force but you had two outs and two strikes on him.
The pitch was way to good for that situation. I don't know where the pitch was called but it should not have been right down the heart of the plate. You pound it outside and make him chase.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:25 am to nicholastiger
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The pass ball was the bigger mistake.
Nobody is arguing that it wasn’t huge, but Mendoza’s run doesn’t matter. It was handled incorrectly from that point on. It really doesn’t matter who was on deck, he should have been walked to set up forces at all the bags
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:25 am to nicholastiger
Exactly. The problem was not with the hitter but with the pitch. Also, we should not have had a runner in scoring position. We outhit FSU in both games. We limited ourselves with mistakes - mostly on the base paths.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:28 am to nicholastiger
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The pass ball was the bigger mistake.
Mendoza was all or nothing this weekend.
He just missed a 405 homerun but other than that, he was kept in check.
Only reason to walk him was to set up a force but you had two outs and two strikes on him.
The pitch was way to good for that situation. I don't know where the pitch was called but it should not have been right down the heart of the plate. You pound it outside and make him chase.
If Watson is not put out at second, LSU is playing today for a trip to Omaha.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:28 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Strategically, I don’t know how someone could argue for pitching to him
with a freshmen behind him? I can't think of any reason to pitch to him considering his run was meaningless...had we been up a run I could see not putting the winning run on other than that I see no reason to pitch to him
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:29 am to Penrod
quote:Yes. I also watched the Georgia regional and I was screaming at the tv to walk Mendoza. Kid on deck was a freshman that feasted on midweek games and had a considerably lower average than Mendoza in both the post season and in ACC play.
Do you know the statistics of the hitter on deck?
Not to mention he was going through a slump.
Throwing to their best hitter and not setting up a force was a huge mistake. Idk if it cost us the game but it was a dumbass move.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:29 am to Topwater Trout
I’m not sure if you’re agreeing with me or not
I did not want them to pitch to him
I did not want them to pitch to him
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:30 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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I did not want them to pitch to him
my bad i was mislead by your title
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:33 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I blame Jake Mangum. Paul made the same call 2 weeks ago and Mangum choked.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:35 am to Penrod
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Do you know the statistics of the hitter on deck?
Statistically you put the top percentage batter on base every time with two outs in extra innings because the run is meaningless at first and you now create an out at any base (except home) situation. You put him on in every calculation.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:37 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
If you pitch to him you couldn’t give him a good pitch. Once we had 2 strikes nothing should have been in the zone. But you had Fontenot battling but fatigued and the hit was too much over the plate. Probably should have walked him. Most would have.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:38 am to Penrod
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Do you know the statistics of the hitter on deck?
Unfortunately for your argument, stats dont always tell the whole story
Posted on 6/10/19 at 9:57 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I can go either way, but In that position when both hitters are rather even, you start down the check list on each and Mendoza’s strikeouts stand out. 50% of the time Mendoza won’t even put the ball in play, he will either walk or strike out. Then there’s another 25% chance he is retired via a ball put in play.
Extremely tough decision for PM. He played the odds & lost. Easy to second guess now.
Extremely tough decision for PM. He played the odds & lost. Easy to second guess now.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:01 am to nicholastiger
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The pass ball was the bigger mistake.
You are correct.
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The pitch was way to good for that situation
You are correct again.
quote:
You pound it outside and make him chase.
You are correct for a 3rd time....and if you pitch him away and walk him....ok. No big deal.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:06 am to Lester Earl
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Easy to second guess now.
Plenty of us were second guessing as it happened. Mendoza was more likely to hurt you than Martin. I’ve never heard a coach specifically justify throwing to a batter with the intention of a K
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:06 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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It really doesn’t matter who was on deck, he should have been walked to set up forces at all the bags
I agree.
But, we should also agree that didn't come into play.
Look, if Mainieri said, "we had to pick our poison. Of the two options, we liked pitching to Mendoza more...", I can't complain too much.
A lot of fans see everything as black and white. They can't regognize that LSU was facing a negative situation in BOTH cases.
I was where you were last night. But, honestly, there are much bigger mistakes he made over the weekend. This was probably a 50/50 type of call.
Posted on 6/10/19 at 10:08 am to Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Plenty of us were second guessing as it happened. Mendoza was more likely to hurt you than Martin. I’ve never heard a coach specifically justify throwing to a batter with the intention of a K
huh? Of course that happens. If Mainieri liked the matchup with Mendoza/Fontenot better than he did with the next guy, that's absolutely what he should do. And, if he thinks Fontenot can elevate the fastball and beat Mendoza, it's a reasonable decision.
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