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I keep hearing that BH isn't ready. here are some questions....

Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:42 pm
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:42 pm
1. How was he ready 2 months ago if he isn't ready now?

2. If he isn't ready after being with the team nearly a year, isn't that the fault of the coaches?

3. Based on AJ play, how can you conclude he is ready?

Tia.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to
I hope these are rhetorical
Posted by DeathValley85
Member since May 2011
17177 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:46 pm to
My thoughts:

1. He knows the playbook....he knew it at Auburn....it's execution he needed to work on.

2. Kyle Allen played like shite in his first start then bounced back to beat Auburn. Harris should have been allowed at least two starts. Just my opinion.

3. I miss Mett.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10460 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:49 pm to
It doesn't have to make sense. It's Les. Look at 2010 for a prime example of his ineptitude with handling QBs. Lee continually came in to play well why JJ stink it up, yet sat the bench most of the year as JJ finished the regular season with 4 TD passes as a junior starting in 20 or so games.

History tells us Harris will remain on the bench for the foreseeable future.
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

1. How was he ready 2 months ago if he isn't ready now?

was he?

quote:

2. If he isn't ready after being with the team nearly a year, isn't that the fault of the coaches?

how many true freshman are truly reason to be the QB of a top tier SEC team at 19?

quote:

3. Based on AJ play, how can you conclude he is ready?

no comment
Posted by lsufan1126
Alexandria, la
Member since Oct 2014
4 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 12:57 pm to
I have read the positive and negative post about the qb situation. And usually all I do is read but every now and then I would post something, so today I will write my opinion down just as everyone has done since this topic about the qbs are hot.
I've been an Harris fan since the start and still til this day. I do believe he needs to learn from the sideline but actually more on the field. People criticized that he had a bad game but are quick to state tht Jennings has won tough SEC GAMES. if it were not for the defense and lucky breaks we would have a poor season. Jennings had all season to show what he can do. Now it's time that we at least let Harris get reps and learn from playing. I can agree what the people on this post are saying and more. Stop with the excuses and let's utilizes the talent we have.
Thank you
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20217 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:02 pm to
At this rate he'll be ready in 2017
Posted by Lone Wolf
South Dakota
Member since Oct 2008
264 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:08 pm to
the most frustrating part for me as a fan is that Miles has given Jennings chance after chance after chance, but pulled Harris after one terrible half on the road in one of the most difficult places to play. And that was on a Saturday night, to make it even harder. To not give him another start or even play him again in a meaningful game is unacceptable, especially as horrible as Jennings has played. I kept thinking how bad we should be beating Alabama had we had any sort of good quarterback play. Against Arky, it was just flat out embarrassing. To not put him (or someone else, even if it's Kragthorpe) in there was a horrible coaching decision. Miles kept saying he owed it to the seniors this year not to plan for next year. How about what he owes to the freshman-juniors on the team? I'd sure be upset if I heard that from my coach's mouth, especially if I was defensive player. But, it's the Miles' way. He's done it since he got here. It's the price you pay for a stubborn coach who's stuck in the '80's offensively. Just be thankful he's a great recruiter and also for Chavis. Without those 2, we'd be Vandy without the grades.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

I keep hearing that BH isn't ready.
the appropriate response is: AJ isn't ready either.
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:11 pm to
Its funny how true freshman Kyle Allen can be ready at A&M in a pass happy offense, meanwhile BH isn't ready in one of the most run oriented offenses in the nation. Give Les a raise
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

1. How was he ready 2 months ago if he isn't ready now?

He probably wasn't. The coaches may have wanted to see if he was a "gamer" and looked better in a game than in practice. Or they may have wanted to see if he was "more ready" than Jennings.

quote:

2. If he isn't ready after being with the team nearly a year, isn't that the fault of the coaches?


No. There are some occupations that take more than "nearly a year" to master for all but a very very select few. While playing QB at a major college may not be brain surgery, I'm not sure I'd like the one operating on me or the other leading my favorite team after a few months on the job.

quote:

3. Based on AJ play, how can you conclude he is ready?

Maybe he's not but after weighing the evidence of the "2 months ago" situation mentioned in your #1 question the coaches came to the conclusion that Jennings was "more ready". Or maybe they figured Jennings has been ruined already and throwing Harris into the fire a second time might ruin him as well if he performs like he did the first time.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
6063 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:13 pm to
quote:

how many true freshmen are truly reason to be the QB at a top tier team in the SEC at 19


Kyle Allen, for one... who had a shitty first start and got another chance. To beat Auburn.
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14470 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:13 pm to
Im confused as well so can harris not hand the ball of 85% of the time? and throw a pass the other 15% of the time
Posted by Lone Wolf
South Dakota
Member since Oct 2008
264 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:14 pm to
Amen, brother. Just look at Barrett at Ohio State. He sucked his first game, but CUM didn't bench him. Now, he's not only performing well, but OSU is in great position for next year.

After the MSU game, I remember looking to my wife and saying they need to play Harris and get him ready for the later season juggernaut and for next year. Instead, Miles inexplicably puts Jennings in and keeps Harris on the sidelines, even when LSU is blowing out Kentucky. Terrible decision.
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10047 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

Or maybe they figured Jennings has been ruined already and throwing Harris into the fire a second time might ruin him as well if he performs like he did the first time.


This is the absolute only defensible excuse the coaches could have to not make the change. I think it is shortsided, but at least it would be one being made with intentions to better the team going forward.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56539 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:15 pm to
quote:


1. How was he ready 2 months ago if he isn't ready now?



He wasn't ready then

quote:



2. If he isn't ready after being with the team nearly a year, isn't that the fault of the coaches?



It is certainly not necessarily a debacle when a true freshman is not ready. Anyone with half a brain can see this.

quote:



3. Based on AJ play, how can you conclude he is ready?



He is definitely not ready.

You seem to be a black and whit thinker and are making several poor assumptions.

Newsflash, we don't have a guy who is ready. AJ sucking says nothing about whether Harris is ready.

The best argument for Harris is that his development will benefit with snaps and the entire focus should be on his development so that we reap the benefits of that NEXT year.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56345 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:16 pm to
quote:

1. How was he ready 2 months ago if he isn't ready now?


Here is how that decision went down.

Cam: les, you know, Brandon looked pretty good last night against NMSU. Maybe we should start him at AU

Les: meh, why not, he can't do worse

Fast forward one week

Les: I was wrong.


I still think Harris should start against the Aggies.
Posted by Lone Wolf
South Dakota
Member since Oct 2008
264 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:19 pm to
that's what I don't get. How can they say he wouldn't have showed at least a little progress in the 2nd half against Auburn or against Florida? It was his first collegiate start and then he gets benched after one half. Yet, Jennings can play like he has and continues to play.
Posted by Skin
Member since Jun 2007
6370 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:24 pm to
4. We've only scored 2 touchdowns in the last 12 quarters of play. How can CLM continue to say AJ gives us our best chance at victory?
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56539 posts
Posted on 11/20/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

that's what I don't get. How can they say he wouldn't have showed at least a little progress in the 2nd half against Auburn or against Florida? It was his first collegiate start and then he gets benched after one half. Yet, Jennings can play like he has and continues to play.



FWIW, He played in the 2nd half against Auburn. He didn't get benched at half. And, me and everyone I was watching the game with agreed it was time to take him out when he came out.
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