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Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:04 am to TowandaTiger
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No Doc, I don't disagree with any of that. But if you've followed football as long as I have you'd know that this "luck" that you're so miserable about, is something that every championship team seems to need. I'm happy it's following us right now and I hope we get "lucky" again this week.
I agree with you that all championship teams have some luck, however if Miles decides to flush 5 series in this game by playing JJ we will need an act of god to beat Auburn. That is what seems to have most people upset when you are playing tight conservative games can you really afford to throw away 5 or more offensive series?
If those series aren't thrown away are the games even close?
This post was edited on 10/20/10 at 10:11 am
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:12 am to icarus
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I agree with you that all championship teams have some luck, however if Miles decides to flush 5 series in this game by playing JJ we will need an act of god to beat Auburn. That is what seems to have most people upset when you are playing tight conservative games can you really afford to throw away 5 or more offensive series?
If those series aren't thrown away is the game even close?
Very good point. If JJ continues to play the first two series of the game, a series in the third quarter and three or more series in the second half, LSU essentially has to score enough points in 50% or less of the offensive snaps they have to beat Auburn in 100% of their offensive snaps. The numbers do not add up.
I am willing to bet that Jordan Jefferson would not even be a QB on 8 of 12 SEC rosters and would not be a starter for any other SEC school, including MSU and Vandy.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:14 am to jhamil25
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And you are just dumb and proved it with this statement....Fact
and how is that a dumb statement again?? Go look at the statistics, Bama only threw the ball 40% of the time this year. They run the ball very often and it's not a secret.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:16 am to icarus
quote:We would all prefer to see Lee at this point. But I'm not ready to say ANY series is automaticaly "flushed" just because JJ is in. Can you at least admit a smile somehow managed to appear on your face at some point during the first play against Tennessee?
I agree with you that all championship teams have some luck, however if Miles decides to flush 5 series in this game by playing JJ we will need an act of god to beat Auburn.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:17 am to guy4lsu
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The same Nick Saban that ran off and left the team high and dry? Yea we really need another one of those.
Left the team high and dry?? The man won us a national title, and brought a ridiculous amount of talent to LSU and made it that much easier for other coaches after him to bring talent to LSU. The man tried to further his career (the same thing anyone else would have done). It didnt work out in the pro's and came back to college ball and won another school a national title in 3 years. He doesnt owe you or me anything and if you were in his shoes i feel you would have done the same exact thing.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:21 am to Howie Feltersnatch
quote:I don't personaly know any Tiger fans that actually like Saban. Only a few on this message board. - And I vehemently disagree with you and them.
Howie Feltersnatch
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:22 am to TowandaTiger
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We would all prefer to see Lee at this point. But I'm not ready to say ANY series is automaticaly "flushed" just because JJ is in.
Towanda...I am not trying to assault you in this thread as you are entitled to your opinion and I am sure you and I would probably agree on many things football related, but JJ should not see the field outside of a goal line situation, if then.
In the last four games, JJ has turned the ball over within the first two series...ALL resulting in TDs for our opponents. He scored on the first play against UT and led us to a fieldgoal against UF on the first drive. That bad far and away outweighs the good with him.
How many QBs that accounted for 4 total yards of offense while playing a majority of a game against a 2-3 FCS school would get playing time for any other BCS conference school?
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:30 am to TowandaTiger
Yeah and i dont see very many ppl on here agreeing with you and your comments on us "whinning lsu fans" so you my friend can..
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:32 am to DeltaDoc
quote:In no way do I think JJ should start in this game. I've seen too much from Lee at this point to argue that. But I've also been witness to a 7-0 start that I'm extremely happy about and when I do see JJ in the game (which we certainly will) I will and DO have faith that our coaches know what they're doing.
DeltaDoc
Coaching football is not a perfect science. Mistakes will undoubtably happen.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:39 am to cody54
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cody54
Everyone hail to the greatest poster in tigerdroppings history. Busy day at work today?
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:42 am to TowandaTiger
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We would all prefer to see Lee at this point. But I'm not ready to say ANY series is automaticaly "flushed" just because JJ is in. Can you at least admit a smile somehow managed to appear on your face at some point during the first play against Tennessee?
Of course it brought a smile to my face. Now come up with another smiling moment on a drive Qb'd by JJ from start to finish in the last 4 games? Can't do it can you?
I don't dislike JJ as a person but just for a second look at the FACTS JJ has 2 TDs and 7 INTs for the year in the last 3 games he has led LSU to a grand total of 1 TD as a QB which just so happens to be when a "smile somehow managed to appear" therefore yes they are flushed series.
Check my posts I am not negative towards LSU and just because I do not like the way Miles handles the QB situation does not make me a hater. Don't ever assume you know ANYTHING about me and take your condescending attitude and shove it where the sun doesn't shine!
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:42 am to TowandaTiger
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Because they throw everything into EVERY game. They have to just to win a few of them. We're contending for a conference and possibly national championship. The less we give the Auburns and Alabamas to look at on film, the better.
Special note: I know I'm gonna get hammered by the naysayers for that last statement.
You can't honestly be that naive to think that we play to basically squeek by with last second heroics, just to not show things to our opponents on film. Your theory is total crap because you don't fake a punt against a team such as McNeese if that's the case.
You must be a believer of Miles comments towards the Tennessee game where he took credit for substituting better than the opponent to win the game. That is just rediculous that it took an illegal participation call for us to win the game. Without Chavis dominating our opponents with his defense, how many of the games do win?
Also, you're putting your faith in a coach who has a 2nd string quarterback who he has all the faith in the world to put into the game for 3rd and long and game winning drives, but he can't start the game...
Name one other team that substitutes their starting quarterback out the game for a 80 plus yard drive with under 2 minutes to go to win the game?
Lay down the scenario to any coach that you have a quarterback on the bench that:
1. has a higher drive success rate
2. half the attempts and is only 170 yards short of the starter for the season
3. has higher yards/completion
4. has higher yards/attempt
5. has far less turnovers
The choice they would make seems so apparent.
The fact that they are winning is not what the fans are upset about, it's the fact that the head coach is making obvious decisions that are counter productive. Oh, and the whole clock management problem too, that's still embarrassing.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:43 am to TowandaTiger
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TowandaTiger
Are you really Les Miles secretly acting as a fan to make us sway to your side? Because it's not working
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:45 am to cody54
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I'm Fired"
haha then quit looking at all those half-naked girls in the O-T.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 10:50 am to cody54
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I'm Fired"
haha then quit looking at all those half-naked girls in the O-T.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:00 am to Scrowe
quote:Those are all good points that also happen to be filled with flaws that are included to deceive the casual reader.
Scrowe
quote:You are aware, I hope, that these "fake punts" are actually reads by Jasper. If it's there he takes it....doesn't matter who the opponent is, only the game situation.
You can't honestly be that naive to think that we play to basically squeek by with last second heroics, just to not show things to our opponents on film. Your theory is total crap because you don't fake a punt against a team such as McNeese if that's the case.
quote:True again, but you could say that about just about every championship caliber team, therefore misleading again.
Without Chavis dominating our opponents with his defense, how many of the games do win?
quote:Again only partially true. Lee didn't come in on 3rd down. He starts those drives. So a bit misleading yet again.
Also, you're putting your faith in a coach who has a 2nd string quarterback who he has all the faith in the world to put into the game for 3rd and long and game winning drives, but he can't start the game...
quote:We have had those issues in the past, but did you not like the way the clock was managed against Florida? I guess you choose to ignor that huh?
The fact that they are winning is not what the fans are upset about, it's the fact that the head coach is making obvious decisions that are counter productive. Oh, and the whole clock management problem too, that's still embarrassing.
Posted on 10/20/10 at 11:18 am to TowandaTiger
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You are aware, I hope, that these "fake punts" are actually reads by Jasper. If it's there he takes it....doesn't matter who the opponent is, only the game situation.
I understand that, but you use it against McNeese...really? Did you not say we hold back to not show things for film, what happened there? We honestly needed to fake that punt...and if so, that just helps my argument.
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True again, but you could say that about just about every championship caliber team, therefore misleading again.
I'll agree with you there, but there are things with our team that the defense is keeping us from looking awful.
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Again only partially true. Lee didn't come in on 3rd down. He starts those drives. So a bit misleading yet again.
Rewatch the Tennessee game, 3rd and 9 or so Lee came in on Jefferson's drive just for 3rd and long on a drive that started late in the 3rd quarter. Also, he was used on both game winning drives vs Tennesee and Florida.
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We have had those issues in the past, but did you not like the way the clock was managed against Florida? I guess you choose to ignor that huh?
Ok, so they "improved" that, whenever that is on a consistant basis to the point that I can forget about the prior blunders, then I'll agree with you. I will agree to the point that it has been "worked" on.
This post was edited on 10/20/10 at 11:24 am
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