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re: I find it strange how men get attacked for expressing reservations about getting married

Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:33 pm to
Posted by SECCaptain
Member since Jun 2025
3075 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:33 pm to
This country can’t survive without a replacement population, anti-kid narrative is anti-American to a certain extent despite being pro-self
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38964 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:34 pm to
The failure of marriage in the modern culture is the fault of everyone - Men, Women, Media, Culture, Politics, etc. - all of it.

We are responsible as long as we let nefarious forces control it, and abandoning marriage because "reasons" just sends us further down that path. Fixing everything takes sacrifice. Find the right woman, get married, have kids, raise them right. It isn't a complicated formula and there are normal women out there. But the only way around this is through, not by avoidance.


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I find it strange how men get attacked for expressing reservations about getting married


People are getting attacked for poor reasons, but I do understand why it feels that way.

Here are some things not to do:

1. We need to get away from celebrating hookup culture. All of it. No you don't need notches on your belt. Christians have this one right, and most of modern society will never realize this because they just want to get their rocks off as much as possible.

2. On that note, if you can't restrain yourself a little - stop expecting sex by the fifth date or whatever the current trend is. Stop seeking it out. Keep your count below 5. That's not the point of dating or marriage.

3. Stop looking at porn. Yup. Stop. Cold turkey.

That's a good start to reset expectations. Bring on the "prude" comments. It won't matter, I'm 100% right on this. All of it impacts your perspective, your psyche, how you see others, how they see you, etc. It's all connected.
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
11398 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:37 pm to
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If divorce occurs after 20 or 30 years there is no coming back from that



This is not necessarily true.
Posted by faraway
Member since Nov 2022
4337 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:38 pm to
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You aren't ready for the commitment and sacrifice required to say married.
apparently I'm not.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
151351 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:39 pm to
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The failure of marriage in the modern culture is the fault of everyone - Men, Women, Media, Culture, Politics, etc. - all of it.
and anyone pushing an anti marriage agenda for any reason are individuals who want to hurt our societal fabric as opposed to improving it
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 3:40 pm
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61909 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:39 pm to
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stats to back them up
there weren’t any stats in the op
Posted by Duck Nation
Member since Aug 2026
44 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:40 pm to
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I don’t like the woman hate - it gets old


So a man having reservations about getting married equals "woman hate"?

Every post you make just reinforces everything I said in the OP.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Sampson
Thailand
Member since Mar 2012
25183 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:46 pm to
Congrats on never cheating or even thinking about cheating in your marriage. As a single man with great hair I have seen women compromise. Good Christian Family women have weak moments. That would potentially cause a divorce. It’s not hate it’s just the facts of life.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61909 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:47 pm to
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So a man having reservations about getting married equals "woman hate".
the way you word the OP makes it sound like only the man loses in a divorce -yes
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Every post you make just reinforces everything I said in the OP.
not really -I’ve been married a long time, no divorce, and plenty of kids

If you go in with a bad attitude, you’re going to lose.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61909 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:53 pm to
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Congrats on never cheating or even thinking about cheating in your marriage.
I haven’t - I have known my husband since I was 17 - that’s 28 years - we’ve been together 27

He has saved my life in many ways and I wouldn’t want to compromise what we have. Maybe respect is what is missing in relationships nowadays.

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Good Christian Family women have weak moments.
I’ve seen plenty of men cheat, too. I know on TD all the men are perfect and no has cheated - but let’s not forget that a lot of times men cheat, too. Plenty of times men are not there for their wives and are abusive as well. Many men are selfish, too. Just the facts of life.

But we tend not to be introspective on TD and just join the herd with women bashing.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 3:55 pm
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38964 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:55 pm to
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If you go in with a bad attitude, you’re going to lose.



or if you go in only thinking about what you get out of it. Or if you walk in thinking that marriage and "love," is self-focused - that it's sole purpose is to give me good feelings every day and as soon as it doesn't, it's not worth it.

Media and Culture more than anything have ripped the idea of marriage to pieces. And continue to do so.

Marriage and Family is not about sex and love and feelings. But that's what movies and music, unfortunately, tell us. It's about mutual sacrifice for a positive end - aka children who are good humans that continue the good trend by being imbued with a good moral code, the ability to mutually sacrifice, who go on and create a better world after you.
Posted by Sampson
Thailand
Member since Mar 2012
25183 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:56 pm to
It was a pleasure getting to know you better green rock. I think we can agree that people are flawed and that’s OK. World keeps spinning
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61909 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:57 pm to
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Media and Culture more than anything have ripped the idea of marriage to pieces. And continue to do so.
yep - a terrible attack on the family by the left who want to destroy anything that is good and holy.
Posted by Pax Regis
Alabama
Member since Sep 2007
15568 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:58 pm to
Divorce laws need to be overhauled dramatically. Default needs to be you take what you brought into the marriage- no right to continued financial support from the ex spouse. Split child support evenly.

The continued assumption that women are entitled to what the man earns is an anachronism. They can and do earn as much or more than the man these days. Or at least they could if they tried. This isn’t 1950 anymore.
Posted by DrrTiger
Gulf of America
Member since Nov 2023
2753 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:59 pm to
I tell my college-aged son all the time that who he chooses to marry will be the single most important decision he ever makes. If you screw that up, the ramifications are usually severe on multiple levels. Do not ignore red flags.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
61909 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 3:59 pm to
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It was a pleasure getting to know you better green rock
you, too

Just stay away from Delilah and you should be ok.

Yes, people are flawed. And I’m in the business of forgiveness but also education. People have got to learn from their mistakes - unfortunately most don’t.
Posted by Duck Nation
Member since Aug 2026
44 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:13 pm to
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I tell my college-aged son all the time that who he chooses to marry will be the single most important decision he ever makes. If you screw that up, the ramifications are usually severe on multiple levels. Do not ignore red flags.


Even then there's a good chance that the woman you married at 25 isn't the same woman you're married to at 55.
Gray divorce rates are sky high.
For a man the risk of financial ruin from the Mrs. doesn't end until death.
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1720 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:19 pm to
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The continued assumption that women are entitled to what the man earns is an anachronism. They can and do earn as much or more than the man these days.


And in that event a man wouldn’t “lose half.” I’m starting to think some of y’all think divorce is a “man penalty.” It’s based on who earns what in the marriage regardless of sex.
This post was edited on 9/22/26 at 4:28 pm
Posted by Duck Nation
Member since Aug 2026
44 posts
Posted on 9/22/26 at 4:28 pm to
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stats to back them up

there weren’t any stats in the op

50% of marriages end in divorce.
Over 70% of divorces are filed by the wife.
Women overwhelmingly get the kids and child support.
Almost all alimony is paid from husband to wife.

Need any more stats?
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