re: I don’t think people understand how QB battles work

I’d like in the Citrus Bowl the QB derby begins

Let Daniels play first 3 series

Nuss plays the 2nd 3 series

And Howard plays next 3 series

All with starting OL and WRers


Then let’s take it from there going into spring

I don’t put everything on Daniels at all, but he’s the QB with the ball in his hands every snap and has control of the offense so he gets the blame. A lot of those penalties and lack of possessions falls back on the play of the QB. He gives his offense the confidence they need and gets the trust of his coaches / teammates with his play. The OC, in the FS game, was giving him plays to attack that defense and he just didn’t trust himself or his WRs? I’m not sure which or maybe it was a little of both.

How many balls did you see him throw over the shoulder to a WR running a deep post or go route? Boutte wasn’t looking because Boutte wasn’t thrown the ball all game and just didn’t expect the ball to come his way. You wouldn’t see that if the QB was communicating with his players on the sidelines, in the huddle and was close to his WRs. You wouldn’t see that if JD would have been spreading the ball around to everyone.

I don’t expect a Burrow type of play but I do expect a leader at the QB position. A leader would have his WRs ready on every possession. Use your legs but use them when you need to do that. There were many times when I would see him completely give up on the option to pass when using his legs and had he used his legs to his advantage, he would always keep his eyes down field when running and never give up on the option to pass the ball. Use your legs to pass as well as run. When he takes off out of the pocket, that defense has to react and will almost always leave someone wide open downfield to pass to or at least allow for a good angle to place the ball where his WRs can make a play.

That is what the great QBs do and if he wants to become a great QB and take this team to a championship, which I’m sure is what he wants, then he will have to open up this part of his game. He will have to start passing the ball to WRs that look covered and place the ball to a spot that only his WR can get it. If he works on this part of his game and his teammates know that they could get the ball at any time then he will take the next step. I didn’t see him do this much this season. When he threw the ball, the WR was generally alone with no one within 3 yards of them, sometimes more. I did see him make a few passes to covered WRs and when he did that, the result was almost always good. I thought this would help him grow but the next week he would revert back to his indecisive ways and take off with the ball without leaving the pass as an option, get sacked or keep the ball so long that the OL would be called for holding and kill the drive.

That’s another issue I had with JD. When you do have penalties against you, make a play downfield, dictate what the defense will do. Know your down and distance. Know what the defense will likely do in those situations and communicate that to your offense. Use the hot route and audible to your advantage. Throw the ball away if you need to do so.

There is definitely some blame to go around within the offense. I thought the scheme could have been better at times. I thought we could use the short passing game more at times but knowing that will open up the medium and long yardage plays. I didn’t like how running plays were called with the passing. The rhythm seemed to be missing. Runs to set up pass and pass to set up run. Similar looks to disguise what your doing. After several big run plays, I like to use PA for big plays and there were times where we would keep running until it was stopped. Take advantage of those moments.

We also seemed to throw the ball short too many times without taking shots over the top. We didn’t use the middle of the field near enough. I think a lot of this was due to Daniel’s coming in so late and not getting enough time with his WRs. So I would like to see this progress in the bowl game. Call plays with a rhythm and with reason. Use your legs to pass and run but always look to pass first, even if it’s only 5 yards. You never know what that WR or RB will do? Use the backs in the passing game more. Use RPO style more. Run some option plays, get really good at screens and draw plays. Use the entire field and throw the ball to WRs with one on one matches. If you need to scramble to create an angle then do that. Practice in your off time with your WRs so when you do scramble they know exactly how to react so you can give them the ball.

That’s what I want to see from Daniel’s and if he can do that, then he’ll deserve his spot as the starter. Let your elite WRs be elite. Use your legs wisely and be quick with your decisions. I think he can do it, i just want to see it. If not then let someone else try to prove themselves. Stats don’t score, the players do, so you can be 26-30 with 367 yards and 119 yards on the ground but if you can’t score TDs then what’s the point? Our defense will give up points right now so we need to score to win.

quote:

---

Draconian Sanctions

---

quote:

---

These Nuss people are absolutely out of their minds.

---

I just don't think this is a Nuss issue but more of a want for the QB to be able to get the ball in the hands of the wide receivers

Daniels undoubtedly is terrific running the football, his feet extended plays and his running the ball won the games that LSU should have won.

Hoping all 3 QB's stay and one of them leads LSU to another SEC West championship

quote:

---

would argue, the defensive line was thin and Daniels had so many three and outs the defense was worn down at the end of the season.
If the offense doesn't make long, time eating drives, it makes the defense appear as a problem.
Take the A&M game. The defense was pushed around the first half. They got a stop of A&M the first drive of the second half. The offense got the ball and Daniels fumbled after making the wrong read. Instead of handing off to Emery, who had a clear path up the middle for a long gain and possible score, instead he fumbled for an A&M scoop and score.
Would that qualify him as a "turnover machine" in critical situations.
Without those two critical mistakes, we would have been back into the game, with momentum.

---

They scored every time they had the ball the first half - 23 points should have won that game going away, case closed.

quote:

---

Stats don’t score, the players do, so you can be 26-30 with 367 yards and 119 yards on the ground but if you can’t score TDs then what’s the point? Our defense will give up points right now so we need to score to win.

---

You mention blame several times within your post as if LSU’s losses this year fall on the offense and as if the offense wasn’t efficient. Neither is true. They gave up 38+ points in 3 of the 4 losses and I already walked through the efficiency of the offense in the FSU game. I get your point about having to outscore the opposition to win. I just don’t see a talent so great waiting in the wings that they would be capable of regularly winning games when surrendering 38+ points. Daniels did not cost LSU games this year, but he was a key reason for the wins over Florida and Alabama and a contributor to the wins over Miss St and Ole Miss. LSU likely would have gone 6-6 or 7-5 this year with Nuss at QB.

I’m not sure what you were seeing relative to scoring TDs. LSU was 17th in the country in red zone TDs and 18th in red zone TD %. This was not a team that moved the ball only to stall in the red zone.

quote:

---

Works like this. QB that is best option to win starts.

---

In theory, yes. But it doesn't sound like that's the case under CBK. He's a rich man's Les.

quote:

---

This is demonstrably false.

---

Hmmm? If we were so efficient, offensively, why did we finish 36th in the nation in scoring offense?

quote:

---

Daniel didn’t really regress,

---

It’s Daniel’s

quote:

---

I don’t understand ….. LSU won a Natty with Joe Burrow. Urban Meyer did not win a Natty in 2018, 2019, or in 2020 with Haskins, or Fields. I think Urban Meyer kept the wrong QB. Don’t you?

---

He wasn’t in a position to just give up the 2018 season to give Burrow on the job training to prepare for 2019. Ohio St’s offense was very strong in all 3 seasons and they lost a total of 3 games those years. There is no guarantee Burrow would have done better in 2019 playing in the Ohio St offense with the players Ohio St had than what they did without Burrow. Haskins had a monster year in 2018 and was far better than Burrow that year. They went 13-1 and weren’t far from competing for the NC. Sure, in hindsight, maybe it would have been worth sacrificing 2018 for 2019, but there’s no way Meyer could have known that nor would it have been reasonable to give up on 2018 given the pieces they had in place.