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re: I don’t think people understand how QB battles work
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:11 pm to J2thaROC
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:11 pm to J2thaROC
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This is what happened last year and it’s what will happen next year. The coaches are NOT holding any of the QBs on the roster back. If they aren’t starting, it’s because they are not better than the guy in front of them.
People have already chosen sides and will refuse to believe their guy got a fair shot if they don’t win the job.
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Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:11 pm to Chad504boy
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that's great but its not really a good response to why he regressed. Joe Burrow got better and better in 2018.
Ok but we probably don’t have a Joe burrow on our roster. He was a once in a lifetime type player.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:12 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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Lazy response. Coaches never think a backup who has never played real snaps is the best option. The coaches have to be convinced and they don’t want to make risky decisions, unfortunately.
My guess is the coaches know way more than anyone on this board.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:18 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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I'd say the loss of reps to Brennan definitely did not help Nuss's development.
So you’re saying Nuss couldn’t even beat out an injured and overweight Brennan as the #2 guy? And y’all want him as the starter? Lolololololololol
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:19 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
They all get reps with the 1’s until a starter is named. The incumbent starter gets first preference for obvious reasons, but if the backup is clearly better, he’ll get a shot.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:38 pm to J2thaROC
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It’s not his fault the defense decided to give up more points than A&M had scored against any other opponent all year.
but .... it IS JD's fault that A&M's defense scoop-scored for 6 of those points. Right?
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:38 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
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I’m pretty sure any prior starting QB who’s had at the very least a slightly above average year has never lost his job the next spring.
I'm dubious about "never", but it is rare. Also rare is a QB who makes it to year 5 on the basis of "slightly above average" performances in a program that demands constant improvement. There's a decent chance that we will equal or slightly improve on the '22 record, but 2 or 3 losses isn't likely to win the SEC West again, much less contend for the CFPs. If that's good enough for year 2, then it should also be good enough to play Nussmaier or Howard enough put us in the position of not starting a novice in 24.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:40 pm to paulb52
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Works like this. QB that is best option to win starts.
I think what OP is saying is that there is nothing that Nuss or Howard can do between now and 9/3/2023 to make the coach's think that they are the best option to win.
For better or worse, I tend to agree.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:48 pm to Tiger Ugly
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I would argue the defense regressed when it mattered. I think we scored enough in both games to win had the defense held up their end.
I would argue, the defensive line was thin and Daniels had so many three and outs the defense was worn down at the end of the season.
If the offense doesn't make long, time eating drives, it makes the defense appear as a problem.
Take the A&M game. The defense was pushed around the first half. They got a stop of A&M the first drive of the second half. The offense got the ball and Daniels fumbled after making the wrong read. Instead of handing off to Emery, who had a clear path up the middle for a long gain and possible score, instead he fumbled for an A&M scoop and score.
Would that qualify him as a "turnover machine" in critical situations.
Without those two critical mistakes, we would have been back into the game, with momentum.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 4:49 pm to Fat Bastard
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This is how i know you did not watch the games or even look at stats bad using what metrics? eye test? reading a d? throwing downfield? or just all around stats where the short shite usually beefs up his numbers? He had issues in most all games using the eye test method. he was bad all around in AU and arky games and was not good in TAMu game via many metrics. and that is including ALL passing stats even short to help you out! now go back and only look at intermediate and deep ball % stats and get back to me for all games.
I was responding to the notion that he “regressed” at season’s end, so most of this is completely irrelevant to the context of my statement. I have not once claimed Daniels is good in all facets of the game. There’s no question he has limitations. So does Nuss. The question is which is the better option for this team. Daniels’ limitations did not prevent LSU’s offense from being efficient. He did not suddenly get worse at the end of the year. Maybe he is not the answer many fans want, but at the moment all evidence points to him as the best option now.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:22 pm to Kreg Jennings
quote:Jamar Chase opted out an entire season. Get over yourself. It’s even rumored the reason Chase opted out is because of failed piss tests. Only saw rumors never any proof.
THIS I’ll never forget / forgive the opt out. Really screwed his team / teammates / the program. Bad, bratty look.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:29 pm to LSU316
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I think what OP is saying is that there is nothing that Nuss or Howard can do between now and 9/3/2023 to make the coach's think that they are the best option to win.
I emphatically disagree. Thats a long way away. And for someone like Howard who has a year less experience than Nuss, I think thats a huge amount of time.
That's just over 9 months away. Plenty of time to overtake a starter if the gap isn't huge. And if the gap between QBs is huge, then we shouldn't really be worrying about it right now.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:39 pm to Geaux Tahel
quote:BK is all in with JD. The OP is absolutely right. Nothing short of a JD injury will keep him from starting. I think it’s a bad move but who am I. He’s the Head Coach.
I emphatically disagree. Thats a long way away. And for someone like Howard who has a year less experience than Nuss, I think thats a huge amount of time.
If Nuss or Howard believe they are without a doubt better than JD and don’t feel they are given a fair shot at the starting job they should absolutely transfer.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 5:48 pm to TrouserTrout
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BK is all in with JD. The OP is absolutely right. Nothing short of a JD injury will keep him from starting.
You couldn't be any more wrong. No coach, not even Les Miles, would start JD over the next Joe Burrow if he were on the bench. Only time will tell if anyone on the bench is going to step up in 2023.
Anyone who thinks any coach would start a QB over a better QB, just because he happened to bring him to the team, is a complete retard.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:07 pm to Geaux Tahel
quote:BK values JDs experience way too much for anything Nuss or Howard does in practice to push them ahead of JD.
Anyone who thinks any coach would start a QB over a better QB, just because he happened to bring him to the team, is a complete retard.
BK is Les Miles 2.0. Anything he does will not surprise me.
People here want Nuss and Howard to sit back and watch JD start ahead of them knowing he isn’t better. Most of the same people wouldn’t spend another day at their job if the retard in the cubicle next to them was promoted ahead of them.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:47 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Wasn’t the same from Arkansas on.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:52 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
Tua
Posted on 12/27/22 at 6:56 pm to Jasonwilliamstaxes28
You are wrong. Please tell me why Kelly would play anyone other than the QB that gives the team the best chance to win.
Actually, don’t. You clearly lack the understanding of how things truly work in a program like this.
Actually, don’t. You clearly lack the understanding of how things truly work in a program like this.
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:07 pm to Geaux Tahel
“ ou couldn't be any more wrong. No coach, not even Les Miles, would start JD over the next Joe Burrow if he were on the bench. Only time will tell if anyone on the bench is going to step up in 2023. ”
Joe was on the OSU bench when Urban stuck with Barrett!
Joe was on the OSU bench when Urban stuck with Barrett!
Posted on 12/27/22 at 7:15 pm to Geaux Guy
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Wasn’t the same from Arkansas on.
His numbers against A&M were similar to Alabama. He had his second best statistical game against UAB (granting the competition level). He passed for over 200 yards in the first half against Georgia. How exactly was he not the same after Arkansas?
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