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I believe LSU is becoming a top 10-15 HS recruiting class school and a top 3 portal school
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:54 pm
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:54 pm
-First and foremost, I believe Jay Johnson might be the best recruiter on campus. #1 HS recruiting class*, and the pulls from the portal.
-Can LSU really recruit top 5 in this country in football and basketball?
-I do believe Scott Woodward has brought great coaches to LSU, making LSU a top contender for potential portal breakouts.
Question:
-Do you believe LSU has more pull now with HS kids, or portal players?
-I say portal
-Can LSU really recruit top 5 in this country in football and basketball?
-I do believe Scott Woodward has brought great coaches to LSU, making LSU a top contender for potential portal breakouts.
Question:
-Do you believe LSU has more pull now with HS kids, or portal players?
-I say portal
Posted on 6/28/22 at 9:25 pm to Submarine7
You might be right. Too early to say.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 6:59 am to Submarine7
If your analytics are based upon last year, then I'd have to agree. But your sample size is rather small...
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:08 am to Submarine7
Doubtful. The portal was used heavily during the past cycle due to all the attrition from the coaching changes. Kelly has assembled a strong staff. Have faith in those with proven track records.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:24 am to Submarine7
NIL is the shiny new toy......which likely will attract more HS recruits to do something they normally wouldn't.
once the shine wears off, the portal players, maybe 1-2 years older, still looking for $$ and playing time, start to look at fit MORE than the NIL...yes, they still want NIL, but now they will look to move themselves into more areas they can succeed more.
once the shine wears off, the portal players, maybe 1-2 years older, still looking for $$ and playing time, start to look at fit MORE than the NIL...yes, they still want NIL, but now they will look to move themselves into more areas they can succeed more.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:27 am to Submarine7
NIL is an obvious issue as we just don’t have the funds to compete with the Texas schools.
But I think eventually people will start to realize that going to a team stacked with other guys limits their ability to see the field.
But I think eventually people will start to realize that going to a team stacked with other guys limits their ability to see the field.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 7:29 am to caliegeaux
I don’t disagree but think we need to wait to see what we have after the draft. Mulkey is hitting home run after home run in recruiting though and I believe she is the recruiting champ thus far.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:01 am to Submarine7
I have to been honest, Queen Mulkey is out here doing WORK.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:27 am to TheDeathValley
That woman is a firecracker on the court and in recruiting. I mean she took nothing last year and made them serious contenders. There is a reason she has won the natty. I love the coaches we have now and the verdict is still out on the Men's Basketball but I like what he has done in recruiting.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:27 am to TheDeathValley
That woman is a firecracker on the court and in recruiting. I mean she took nothing last year and made them serious contenders. There is a reason she has won the natty. I love the coaches we have now and the verdict is still out on the Men's Basketball but I like what he has done in recruiting.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:33 am to Submarine7
Brian Kelly had top 10 classes at Notre Dame. I’m not sure why people don’t believe he can do it at LSU. Yes they are off to a slow start but it’s a new coach and LSU is 11-12 the past two season. I think a lot of recruits may be taking the wait and see approach with them.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 9:57 am to extremelsu
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Give it a few years
Lol good luck with that. There’s no patience with the rant
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:22 am to geauxtigers33
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I think a lot of recruits may be taking the wait and see approach with them.
Most rational opinion on recruiting situation. Tons of high school coaches, fans, and croots are wanting to see what LSU football looks like next season (not just wins and losses but how the wins and losses look).
Posted on 6/29/22 at 10:38 am to Submarine7
No, I think with football there's a possibility BK doesn't want to invest big in high school kids who are unproven. He already mentioned this. He has the right mindset. You attack the portal because it's going to stay rich with talent and nothing is preventing us from tampering like every school does anyway to get people to transfer. You see what they're capable of doing, get them in portal, take them. Straight from HS is a risk. Straight from portal is not if you saw what they did. Your NIL collective is better managed this way and it's far less risky than dumping a few million on a HS guy who hasn't taken a snap in college. The landscape is different in football because it's mass bidding wars compared to baseball for example.
JJ obviously has a different philosophy attack both and LSU doesn't have to worry about it being overly competitive in a sport that doesn't make much money. They take who they want in baseball due to this because few universities love baseball as much as LSU. Most lose money on the program. I'm of course speculating on BK and he may just start slapping HS kids in even though he doesn't like it. I'm just going based on his comments about NIL and the transfer portal. He's definitely more organized than O ever was in his entire tenure here.
Nothing supports LSU's recruiting struggles as we're poor and the money is dried up. If this was the case they wouldn't be cleaning up in other sports. To me it signals BK's blueprint and this is how he wants it or the landscape is so competitive it's wait and see approach. There's no gain to bid now when signing day isn't until many months away. The chicken littles on here makes no sense when LSU football is all your athletic department's money. They can't and won't let it fall behind especially after they just invested all this money into BK, his staff, and the new current shadow staff backing the program.
Shut up and be patient. Let the chips fall in place.
JJ obviously has a different philosophy attack both and LSU doesn't have to worry about it being overly competitive in a sport that doesn't make much money. They take who they want in baseball due to this because few universities love baseball as much as LSU. Most lose money on the program. I'm of course speculating on BK and he may just start slapping HS kids in even though he doesn't like it. I'm just going based on his comments about NIL and the transfer portal. He's definitely more organized than O ever was in his entire tenure here.
Nothing supports LSU's recruiting struggles as we're poor and the money is dried up. If this was the case they wouldn't be cleaning up in other sports. To me it signals BK's blueprint and this is how he wants it or the landscape is so competitive it's wait and see approach. There's no gain to bid now when signing day isn't until many months away. The chicken littles on here makes no sense when LSU football is all your athletic department's money. They can't and won't let it fall behind especially after they just invested all this money into BK, his staff, and the new current shadow staff backing the program.
Shut up and be patient. Let the chips fall in place.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 10:47 am
Posted on 6/29/22 at 11:38 am to geauxtigers33
So far, BK is not resonating with the Top players in LA even with Frank Wilson on staff.
Let's hope LSU is not turning into Portal 3 star player university
Let's hope LSU is not turning into Portal 3 star player university
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:03 pm to PUB
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So far, BK is not resonating with the Top players in LA even with Frank Wilson on staff. Let's hope LSU is not turning into Portal 3 star player university
I agree with this but I also think that winning games and showing a quality product on the field this fall can change that.
Also LSU is way behind on NIL at the moment which can be tied to the same issues that if Brian Kelly can show that things are different on the field the money people may be willing to invest more.
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:37 pm to deuce985
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No, I think with football there's a possibility BK doesn't want to invest big in high school kids who are unproven. He already mentioned this.
No, he actually said the opposite. He said he knew he’d have to fill in some gaps this year—and maybe next—to get the roster where it needs to be. But high school recruiting—specifically from the state of Louisiana—would eventually be the lifeblood of his program.
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He has the right mindset. You attack the portal because it's going to stay rich with talent and nothing is preventing us from tampering like every school does anyway to get people to transfer. You see what they're capable of doing, get them in portal, take them. Straight from HS is a risk. Straight from portal is not if you saw what they did.
I think you’re way off base here. He doesn’t want to use other colleges as a minor league training ground for LSU. He’s so big on culture that would be a terrible strategy to achieve what he wants. You get them to buy in as freshmen, love each other, love the university, and hope they stay and develop into champions. Plug a few holes with the portal every year, but I think they’d prefer to use it as little as possible.
Matt House on one of the radio shows was talking about the secondary and said there was a lot of talent there, but he was concerned with their communication because they’ve never played together as a unit. He was encouraged that they all hang out together off the field—said that was a good sign—but you can’t replace on field, in-game synchronicity. You don’t achieve that by relying on the portal every year and letting them basically try-out at other schools first, which is kinda what you’re suggesting.
That staff has been recruiting high school kids at a very successful level for the past 2 or 3 decades and has implemented a scouting department the likes we’ve never seen at LSU. I don’t think they’re scared of their evaluations of high school kids. Now, if you’re simply suggesting they want to see kids in person at camps rather than just film, that BK wants to get them on campus and shake their hands and look them in the eyes before he has somebody extend a significant NIL deal to, I think you’re probably right. But he may soon find out he doesn’t have that luxury.
But at least that would be fixable. If we find out southern high school kids may find him stiff and aren’t picking up what he’s putting down at the rate they were the of 3 previous LSU regimes, that may be a problem. Or if the well is a bit dry due to having to buyout Orgeron, all his staff, Pelini, AND pay Kelly and the current staff as much as they are, then that could be a short-term problem too. Too early to really tell yet, though. This is all new terrain for all parties to navigate. BK and staff seem smart enough to figure out how to adapt, if necessary.
This post was edited on 6/29/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:39 pm to Submarine7
LSU just needs some momentum in football. Be patient
Posted on 6/29/22 at 12:49 pm to Submarine7
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making LSU a top contender for potential portal breakouts.
We’d be a top portal contender anyway, because of the LSU brand. But a lot of what you’re seeing now is because we have literally replaced the coaches of the top 4 sports on campus. Yes, they all appear to dynamic recruiters that would attract portal kids. But a huge part is that a lot of kids left with the old regimes, and we’ve just had an unusually high amount of spots available. It won’t be like this every year. It will level out and these guys (and gal) can focus on quality only, with quantity rarely being an issue.
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