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Hypothetical: 1-9-12 never happens

Posted on 11/7/17 at 5:45 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98190 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 5:45 pm
Bama gets left out of the BCS title game and we beat whoever for the championship. Everything else being equal, is CLM still our coach today?
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34776 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 5:48 pm to
Yes. We probably win the title in 2012 too
Posted by Cool Hand Luke
Member since Oct 2008
1804 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:06 pm to
Les Miles leaving LSU was best for everyone. Alabama is not just better than we are,they are better than everyone else most of the time.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:12 pm to
I think he would be gone under the same parameters that caused his demise at LSU as Head Coach. However he would have left with less animosity from fans, including this one
Posted by lsutiger2
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2008
6186 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:14 pm to
Out of 2011 and 2012, LSU should have at least one title. Thats all i know. Everything else is up for conjecture.
Posted by 1609tiger
Member since Feb 2011
3230 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 6:21 pm to
I don’t think much changes. The 2012 class was not a good class and that game had little effect on that. Miles was being out recruited and if his offense didn’t change after that disaster it sure wasn’t going to change if it didn’t happen.
Posted by Roaring Cowboy
MoWata
Member since Aug 2017
627 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:14 pm to
We would have 2 more NC
Posted by efrad
Member since Nov 2007
18645 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 7:20 pm to
Erasing 1/9/12 doesn't change who Les is. Les caused 1/9/12, and if it didn't happen on 1/9/12 it would have happened later.

If 1/9/12 didn't happen, Les would still be our coach today, but he would be on the hot seat and we'd be clamoring for him to go.
Posted by schwartzy
New Orleans
Member since May 2014
9032 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:09 pm to
Winning it all in 2011 possibly prevents Bama from becoming the empire they are now. It cannot be stated enough how big that game was to finish the hardest schedule in the history of college football.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8073 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:19 pm to
quote:

Hypothetical: 1-9-12 never happens

LSU plays Oklahoma State in the National Championship and caps off one of the greatest seasons in college football history.

Yes. Even if LSU lost to Okie State, CLM is probably the head coach.

The NC loss stunted the LSU program. I feel that a brand new coaching staff is going to need to come in to truly change the culture of LSU being the scrappy little brother.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:26 pm to
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Les caused 1/9/12, 


If it wasn't for Les we wouldn't have got to 1/9/12
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4585 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:32 pm to
quote:

Winning it all in 2011 possibly prevents Bama from becoming the empire they are now. It cannot be stated enough how big that game was to finish the hardest schedule in the history of college football.


This, along with Roy Jones Jr in Seoul and the basketball at the Munich Olympics are the worst travesties in the history of sport.


LSU "reward" for beating Alabama on it's home turf in the "Game of the Century" was having to play an extra game vs UGA and then having to finish 2-0 vs Bama while the Gumps only had to be 1-1.


The third place team in it's conference had no business in a two-team playoff for the national championship over a conference champ with the same record and better overall resume.
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
19825 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:36 pm to
I thought about this.
Posted by ULL Cool J
Member since Jun 2008
924 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:42 pm to
quote:

LSU "reward" for beating Alabama on it's home turf in the "Game of the Century" was having to play an extra game vs UGA and then having to finish 2-0 vs Bama while the Gumps only had to be 1-1.


Can't be said enough. Won't change things, but still true.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:43 pm to
quote:

The 2012 class was not a good class and that game had little effect on that. Miles was being out recruited and if his offense didn’t change after that disaster it sure wasn’t going to change if it didn’t happen.


2012 had more injuries and more shuffle on the oline than this season.

They were one tackle away from winning the west. That season may have actually been one of the best hold the team together jobs Les ever did. I'd love to watch Saban win the west with 22 scholarship players missing.

Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
56041 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:44 pm to
I think Les' quirkiness also turned fans against him as soon as he was not on top of the world...he just reached the end of his shelf life at LSU and the fans got bored with him. I think he would now be gone regardless of the outcome of that game.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68689 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Erasing 1/9/12 doesn't change who Les is. Les caused 1/9/12, and if it didn't happen on 1/9/12 it would have happened later.


Go through the history of LSU and name one coach that finished 13-0. Also that schedule ranks as LSUs toughest in the history of the program.

If it weren't for Les, LSU is never in that game.
Posted by Salviati
Member since Apr 2006
5541 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:01 pm to
quote:

Bama gets left out of the BCS title game and we beat whoever for the championship. Everything else being equal, is CLM still our coach today?
Yes.

LSU, like all fanbases, has many ignorant fans who can't or won't try to understand complexities.

Many still believe that Les caused the 1-9-12 loss by not playing Lee. It's fricking hysterical. It's fricking pathetic.

Hell, many still think that LSU didn't cross the 50 yard line.
Posted by ehidal1
Chief Boot Knocka
Member since Dec 2007
37136 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:04 pm to
Even if 1/9 happens, if Mathieu doesn't get booted before the season, we still might win 2012. Between the two, it killed the spirit
Posted by TigerbaitTigerbait
Member since Aug 2016
417 posts
Posted on 11/7/17 at 9:46 pm to
If I could get doc browns delorian time machine and go back to 2012 with a 2017 sports almanac things would be different.
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