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re: Hypocrisy of those who denigrate Dale Brown's accomplishments
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:05 pm to nitwit
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:05 pm to nitwit
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Are you going to suggest Miles was a great game day coach?
I did not bring Les Miles into this topic, you did.
But, yes, Les did have his shining moments. While he did have some gaffes it is undeniable his legacy would be even stronger if Nick Saban had not returned to the SEC.
Comparing the two is ludicrous, though, given all of the obstacles Brown overcame to take the program to national prominence.
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:11 pm to tigersbb
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I did not bring Les Miles into this topic, you did.
But, yes, Les did have his shining moments. While he did have some gaffes it is undeniable his legacy would be even stronger if Nick Saban had not returned to the S
Its amazing how many lsu posters on here that have no clue that there are very few coaches that can recruit like Miles AND ARE ELITE game day coaches. There might be 4 in all of cfb .
Thanks for the down vote beta.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 6:45 pm to KingofthePoint
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Just because he was our most successful does not make him a legend.
Dale wasn't the best Xs and Os guy and has said that himself. He also underachieved with Shaq and CJ (though Arky was incredible at that time in-conference too). And it was time for him to go when he ended his career at LSU. However, he has been inducted into the College Basketball Hall of Fame and was inducted as an SEC Living Legend. So it's not just an "LSU" thing. I think his personality was probably even more legendary than his accomplishments, but he did have some legendary accomplishments.
His team became the lowest seed to ever make the Final Four (two other teams did it 20+ years later, but they're still tied for the lowest seed to ever make it that far), his teams played in front of the three largest crowds to ever see a basketball game on any level at the Dome (and Brown was the one that sold LSU basketball to the fans) and his 10 straight NCAA tournaments back then was pretty rare (Calipari and Donovan haven't even been to 10 consecutive NCAA tourneys). Also, teams in the tournament used to host regions, but LSU's fans were so loud and seen as such an advantage when they hosted and upset all the teams as a lower seen in 1986 that they put an end to that practice after that year. Brown created the Deaf Dome back then.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 6:46 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:06 pm to tigersbb
This is a stunning string of non sequiturs.
Yes, you were the one who directly ( attempted to) contradict the assertion that " Miles was not a great game day coach". I asked you to elaborate. Your evasion says a great deal about that, despite your weak offer that "he had his shining moments". Yes, he did.
And many awful, cringeworthy moments.
What, exactly were the "obstacles" Brown was forced to overcome when he took over?
How do you compare these so-called obstacles to those Brown left behind for his successors?
That question assumes you are unwilling to acknowledge J Jones was one of those " obstacles"...
Yes, you were the one who directly ( attempted to) contradict the assertion that " Miles was not a great game day coach". I asked you to elaborate. Your evasion says a great deal about that, despite your weak offer that "he had his shining moments". Yes, he did.
And many awful, cringeworthy moments.
What, exactly were the "obstacles" Brown was forced to overcome when he took over?
How do you compare these so-called obstacles to those Brown left behind for his successors?
That question assumes you are unwilling to acknowledge J Jones was one of those " obstacles"...
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:13 pm to Big EZ Tiger
Brown's career was very good. He is not beyond reproach though. The Mardi Gras Massacre and Miracle both would have brought this place down. 
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:18 pm to tigersbb
Stop denigrating LSU fans on Tigerdroppings that denigrate the current program. You are denigrating the entire fan base which is causing other schools to denigrate us even more.
Denigrate.
Denigrate.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:19 pm to Lakeboy7
Yup. His best years were when he had Tex.
Dale was the Les Miles of bb. Recruit, motivate, but could not coach in game.
Dale was the Les Miles of bb. Recruit, motivate, but could not coach in game.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:19 pm to therick711
In today's climate no one would wait 7 years for Dale Brown to win 20 games. Today he would have been fired after 4-5 years. They did not have The Rant in those days!!
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:23 pm to tigersbb
Ironically I'm watching Shaq and Dale 30/30 on Espn....
The Dale Brown era was the most exciting times in LSU basketball!
The Dale Brown era was the most exciting times in LSU basketball!
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:24 pm to therick711
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The Mardi Gras Massacre and Miracle both would have brought this place down.
Absolutely. I still don't know how we blew that. I will say this though, I've never seen two teams get so hot in all of my life. LSU was draining every 3 in the first half and it was coming from every direction. Then UK caught the fever in the 2nd half...still should have never blown that lead though at home.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:28 pm to KingofthePoint
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Dale Brown does not deserve his name on the court. Just because he was our most successful does not make him a legend.
Dale is a Hall of Fame Head Coach, there is no debating that.
Now McClendon and Moore are Hall of Fame football coaches and we didn't name the football field after either. The practice facility and track stadium have their names. We should honor Dale but not with court.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:29 pm to Big EZ Tiger
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Absolutely. I still don't know how we blew that. I will say this though, I've never seen two teams get so hot in all of my life. LSU was draining every 3 in the first half and it was coming from every direction. Then UK caught the fever in the 2nd half...still should have never blown that lead though at home.
A 31 point lead with 15 minutes to play is as bulletproof as they come.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:31 pm to tigersbb
Some of the greatest players in the history of college basketball
Some of the best teams in college basketball...
Ncaa tournamets every year
Couldn't wait to watch every single game...
That's what Dale Brown did!!!!
Some of the best teams in college basketball...
Ncaa tournamets every year
Couldn't wait to watch every single game...
That's what Dale Brown did!!!!
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:32 pm to tigersbb
To hell with Dale Brown
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:32 pm to therick711
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The Mardi Gras Massacre and Miracle both would have brought this place down.
What could Brown or any coach do if suddenly every shot finds net. For 34 minutes everything they did was right. It just happened.
If it had been a close nip an dtuck game every one would laud how the Tigers played courageously while overmatched.
In 1998 an overmatched LSU team of castoffs and lightly regarded players took mighty Kentucky to the wire. A Maurice Carter jumper rimmed out at the buzzer and the CATS escaped with a one point win. Did Brady coach better than Brown did when they lost the large margin. Maybe, but he never coached them to a 30 point lead either.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:34 pm to tigersbb
You're not really defending the Mardi Gras Miracle, are you? The last two minutes of that game may have been the most poorly coached I've seen this side of Johnny Jones against NC State.
The last two minutes of that game may have been the most poorly coached I've seen this side of Johnny Jones against NC State.This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:42 pm to tigersbb
Most of the people who knock Dale Brown never saw his teams at their best. They are just repeating the same old tired shite that is said about him. Master Motivator, can't coach etc. etc.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:43 pm to Ponchy Tiger
In those fans' defense, it didn't help that Bob Knight took the kind of shot he did at him in 1987.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:44 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
Most of the people who knock Dale Brown never saw his teams at their best.
although it had to be the most frustrating/pissing off thing to the opposing team, no one ran the four corner better than us under him
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:51 pm to tigersbb
Like it or not, Dale Brown is the father of LSU basketball. He took over this program in the 70's and made it a winner, including 2 Final Fours. Everyone wants to remember the early 90's talent and disappointment but the fact is that Dale set those expectations with what he built. He is responsible for the downturn of the program at the end of his tenure and even got caught cheating trying to save it at the end.
Say what you want, but Dale did much more good than harm to LSU basketball.
Say what you want, but Dale did much more good than harm to LSU basketball.
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