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re: How would targeting have changed the outcome?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:23 am to nitwit
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:23 am to nitwit
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We also are at risk for losing JD next week, maybe more.
At this point I don't even care. I'd like to see JD get enough playing time to prove his draft stock, but I'd also like to see Nuss start getting some in game reps. At this point he either can or he can't do it, and the coaches need to know. The sooner the better.
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:27 am to Lombardi44
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Bama would have lost Turner for the 4th qtr but Daniels wasn’t coming back?
It wasn’t changing the outcome of the game. My rage is the SEC is condoning head hunting.
This shite needlessly injures players and does affect draft stock. If you cant beat another teams best why win?
Look at all the QBs Saban has succeeded in headhunting.
Duck Saban and all his satanic menions.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:31 am to la_birdman
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It wouldn’t have. It’s just annoying to see when it’s so obvious that it’s targeting.
It either is or it isn’t. But there’s no review to even check it. That’s what’s annoying.
How many times have you seen a similar thing and the ref goes out there and turns on his mic and announces to the entire stadium “the previous play is under review.”
That didn’t happen. I know he says “they” reviewed it but come on. I’ve seen them break out the headset and that little monitor and review it for what seems like forever for far less.
That didn’t happen here. Are we following the rules or not? That’s part of your job as an official, correct?
This times f-ing 1000! Nobody know whether it would have changed the outcome of the game, but anyone who watches two minutes of college football knows what a targeting review looks like.
Anytime a "defenseless" QB or a receiver gets marginally close to being hit in the head we stop the game down for 4-5 minutes while the replay official and the Head Referee put on the headset and watch 43 angles and 80% of the time they uphold targeting.
You can like or dislike the rule, but that process did not happen this time in one of the more egregious instances of "Wow, that looked like it might have been targeting" that you will see this year. Please go find me a more egregious instance this season that did not result in the game being paused to take a look at it!
I don't know if it's a conspiracy, incompetence or maybe just inherent bias for Alabama by the folks making the decisions here, but when both the announcers (Gary Danielson!!!!!!) and the rules expert express disbelief that targeting is not even be considered and the game doesn't stop for a review, something is wrong.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:42 am to nitwit
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Turner has every incentive to continue head hunting…
Exactly. The only thing that would change that is if he was hunted every play thereafter. Take out our qb on purpose and end up with a broken leg or worse.
You have to break a thug with his own tactics.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:42 am to John_V
Did they not throw a flag? Why did CBK not call a time out and ask for a review? Is it because he’s a shill for the biased SEC office?
If the SEC office was pro-Bama, why did they not call targeting last year on Tennessee on the Bryce Young hit? Did they want Tennessee to win and knock Bama out of the SEC race and open the door for LSU?
Of course they didn’t, the SEC only wants to keep LSU down because they read the Rant and watching the melt is priceless.
If the SEC office was pro-Bama, why did they not call targeting last year on Tennessee on the Bryce Young hit? Did they want Tennessee to win and knock Bama out of the SEC race and open the door for LSU?
Of course they didn’t, the SEC only wants to keep LSU down because they read the Rant and watching the melt is priceless.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:49 am to Lombardi44
That's not the point. The point is that it was obvious and wasn't called, just like in other games I've watched in this stadium. Who runs the SEC office? Bama?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:53 am to Lombardi44
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:54 am to Bayou
quote:good lord.
Targeting DID change the outcome
Our defense had one (1!!!) stop all night long, and it was Bama's first possession. Bama was 11 of 14 on 3rd down conversions.
Our defense is atrocious and this game played out exactly as I knew it would.
Losing Daniels hurt us, of course, but we weren't winning that game with our historically terrible defense.
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:55 am to Lombardi44
If it had not been overlooked for two years, he would not still be maiming opponents players.
This was not his first offense and he has never been penalized, to my knowledge.
What is it going to take? Wait until he permanently injures someone?
This was not his first offense and he has never been penalized, to my knowledge.
What is it going to take? Wait until he permanently injures someone?
Posted on 11/6/23 at 8:56 am to Roymg
If Bama runs the SEC, what happened last year against Tennessee?
I bet you believe Biden won the election fairly, too.
I bet you believe Biden won the election fairly, too.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:00 am to Lombardi44
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Bama would have lost Turner for the 4th qtr but Daniels wasn’t coming back?
About the same that the D. White "targeting" changed the game against State in 2018. It wouldn't, but it would impact the next game, which is th deterring factor of the rule in an attempt to maintain player safety. Guess player safety takes a back seat when it might cost Bama it starting LB for the first half of the next game.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:02 am to Lombardi44
I might be more pissed off at the phantom holding call on Will Campbell. It negated like a 20 yard run from Daniels, but that call was terrible.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:22 am to Lombardi44
It’s not about changing anything
Just call it what it is & apply the rules
Just call it what it is & apply the rules
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:29 am to Lombardi44
It wouldn't have but that is not the point at all...
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:49 am to meauxses
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It wouldn't have changed the outcome. It's just annoying that rules don't seem to apply to them.
On social media, BAma fans were saying it was a clean hit and shouldn't have been a call at all..
said it's football, "next man up"
I said, okay, let's trade... we give Milroe a concussion, and Jaydne finishes the 4th QB...
who wins?
at least a few Bama conceded that LSU would likely win that situation./
I felt robbed not getting to see Daniels do his thing in prime time 4th Qtr...
sad sad sad
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:15 am to Lombardi44
quote:agreed. The "SEC is biased" crowd always conveniently forgets all the bad calls that go against Bama, which definitely happened last year with a terrible PI call against Bama which cost them the Tenn game. But Rant posters won't acknowledge that, because it destroys their narrative.
If Bama runs the SEC, what happened last year against Tennessee?
Bama is 6th in the SEC this year in penalties. LSU is 5th (which is better).
And last year, Bama was one of the worst in the country in penalties.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:17 am to Lombardi44
Hey Lombardi, back in the grave buddy.
It was still an egregious non-call, incorrect BTW...
It was still an egregious non-call, incorrect BTW...
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:20 am to atltiger6487
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But Rant posters won't acknowledge that, because it destroys their narrative.
we sure seem to get more than our share of blown calls/ bad calls against us, especially in Tuscaloosa, bama was flagrantly holding all night long too, no calls, the non-horse collar was bullshite, particularly when it was later called on us, happens a little to frequently over there
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:29 am to Lombardi44
1) Targeting (and the earlier Horse Collar non-call) complaints aren't about the score, it's about playing within the rules.
With the heavy focus on "player safety", that absolutely should have been targeting. Daniels threw the ball, Turner was in front of him and should have seen that... the first part of Daniels' body that he makes contact with is his throwing arm. Standard operating procedure in that is to give Daniels a forearm shiver to the chest, pull up with hands up. Daniels goes backward and maybe down, probably no penalty because of momentum.
Instead he wraps him up and launches his body, driving Daniels into the ground, and they're helmet to helmet when it happens.
If it were NFL, Turner gets a fine and a call from the league office this week. Probably a suspension, too.
Horse Collar was obvious too, Daniels gets grabbed by the back of the collar and is yanked around.
2) While it probably doesn't change the outcome, it would have resulted in Turner ejected (and out for the first half of the next game), and Daniels would still be in the game. We've seen him lead drives late before, he may well have done it again- if he were still in.
If not, maybe Bama is a bit skittish on the rush, and Nuss makes a play or 2.
With the heavy focus on "player safety", that absolutely should have been targeting. Daniels threw the ball, Turner was in front of him and should have seen that... the first part of Daniels' body that he makes contact with is his throwing arm. Standard operating procedure in that is to give Daniels a forearm shiver to the chest, pull up with hands up. Daniels goes backward and maybe down, probably no penalty because of momentum.
Instead he wraps him up and launches his body, driving Daniels into the ground, and they're helmet to helmet when it happens.
If it were NFL, Turner gets a fine and a call from the league office this week. Probably a suspension, too.
Horse Collar was obvious too, Daniels gets grabbed by the back of the collar and is yanked around.
2) While it probably doesn't change the outcome, it would have resulted in Turner ejected (and out for the first half of the next game), and Daniels would still be in the game. We've seen him lead drives late before, he may well have done it again- if he were still in.
If not, maybe Bama is a bit skittish on the rush, and Nuss makes a play or 2.
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:30 am to Lombardi44
If the best player this season in the SEC can’t get that call against Bama, no one can
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