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re: How would lsu have done if Orgeron let Canada coach?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:57 am to JodyPlauche
Posted on 8/19/23 at 7:57 am to JodyPlauche
quote:
Matt Canada's offense was childhood playground amateur bullshite.
You run the football goaline to goaline NOT sideline to sideline.
If you want to see jet sweeps working...go watch Pee Wee.
I wouldn't go that far. If I am a OC I have jet sweeps and pre snap motions, and flipping the formation strengths in the tool box for sure. He had some very good stuff but his whole offense was more smoke and mirrors than substance.
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Posted on 8/19/23 at 9:38 am to JodyPlauche
quote:
You run the football goaline to goaline NOT sideline to sideline. If you want to see jet sweeps working...go watch Pee Wee.
The jet sweep was very effective here. What were you watching?
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:09 am to The Pirate King
quote:it's 4 years later from 2019 -- do we also have to move on from that?
6 years later, move on
Posted on 8/19/23 at 10:53 am to atltiger6487
We had DJ Chark, Russell Gage, and the best route runner on the team in Justin Jefferson and Canada preferred an offensive system that put routes designed to get the ball in a walk-on FBs hands.
Canada was terrible. Take that crap to Pitt where there are no athletes at WR who can catch.
Canada was terrible. Take that crap to Pitt where there are no athletes at WR who can catch.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:43 am to bdavids09
Matt Canada's offense was at best quite simplistic and predictable; at worst it was a complete disaster (cf Miss St and Troy 2017). I don't recall LSU having even one sustained drive that year; they scored a lot of points, but mostly due to special teams, occasional big plays on offense, and great defense which produced short fields and scads of Connor Culp FGs.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:45 am to KingofthePoint
For and against.
Arkansas ran for 385 yards in a win vs. the National Champions in 2007 in Baton Rouge.
With essentially the same game plan (Wildcat and more sweeps than the 1986 NY Mets), Arkansas ran for 298 yards in a very close game in 2006.
683 combined rushing yards in those two games. Both of those Defenses were top 15 in the nation vs. the run.
What makes this even more impressive is that the Razorbacks didn't have much of a passing game. 211 passing yards in those two games (67 by McFadden). Really incredible performances, and a masterful job of game planning to your strengths.
Arkansas ran for 385 yards in a win vs. the National Champions in 2007 in Baton Rouge.
With essentially the same game plan (Wildcat and more sweeps than the 1986 NY Mets), Arkansas ran for 298 yards in a very close game in 2006.
683 combined rushing yards in those two games. Both of those Defenses were top 15 in the nation vs. the run.
What makes this even more impressive is that the Razorbacks didn't have much of a passing game. 211 passing yards in those two games (67 by McFadden). Really incredible performances, and a masterful job of game planning to your strengths.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:48 am to bdavids09
Nobody in football runs that offense for a reason.
I’d take coach E any day.
I’d take coach E any day.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 11:57 am to tarzana
quote:Dang, TD dropping dem Latin literary terms. You must be used to writing briefs or else persuasive essays.
(cf Miss St and Troy 2017)
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:30 pm to LosTigres251
quote:* Ed Orgeron (Instead of Tom Herman or anybody that may have been interested)
If you add in a bozo for an AD,
* Trent Johnson (Instead of Tony Bennett)
* Johnny Jones (Instead of Eric Musselman)
* Nikki Fargas (Instead of Kim Mulkey)
* Aramark
* "I am the Search"
* Allowed Eddie Nunez to ID and bring in Will Wade
Hey, he did replace all the windows and renovate the exterior of Tiger Stadium. (Even though it's now 4 different stadium's on the exterior that don't match)
Posted on 8/19/23 at 12:53 pm to JodyPlauche
quote:
Matt Canada's offense was childhood playground amateur bullshite.
You run the football goaline to goaline NOT sideline to sideline.
If you want to see jet sweeps working...go watch Pee Wee.
Misdirection football works but you have to give the defense a reason to overpursue. All those option teams of days gone by ran tons of misdirection handoffs but it was the brutal efficiency of the triple option that had the defenses going the wrong way.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:21 pm to BillF
quote:
Did Ogeron do his homework on Canada before hiring him?
He probably never even met the guy before Canada showed up for work
Coach Zero's pitch was as follows to get the LSU job- Per the Binder
1- I will take less $ and use the difference to hire the best coaches in CF. Aranda was top notch so He only had to address Offense
2- I am the best recruiter in CF and will load the boat with talent.
3- The talent, high quality coordinators and my passion = Championships for LSU.
Bottom line- Zero was forced to hire a splash OC by virtue of his promise.
I believe Canada knew he was FOS almost immediately and thus the pissing contest started.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 2:54 pm to Alt26
quote:
Kiffin fell through, so O had to scramble to keep his first and biggest campaign promise. He HAD to get a "big name" OC. Canada fit the bill as a hot name at the time. He was a Broyles award finalist. Thus, O hired him to make good on his promise. It did not matter that O had no relationship with Canada or really knew much about his offense, and if it would be successful with LSU's personnel in the SEC. He had to deliver on his campaign promise to hire a big name.
It's more on O than anybody but don't let this board off the hook for planting Canada in his mind. There was a lot of pro-Canada talk here before he ever emerged as a real candidate. A better coach might have foreseen what a bad fit it was and ignored the posters here but it's disingenuous to ignore our own role.
Posted on 8/19/23 at 3:17 pm to bdavids09
Leave it to LSU fans to continue crying about a coach that brought us the greatest season in CFB history years after he’s already gone. He needed to go when he did but this shite is starting to get embarrassing
Posted on 8/19/23 at 4:10 pm to nomar
Cam Cameron was also an NFL OC as well as HC. Still awful.
Posted on 8/20/23 at 11:18 am to financetiger38
quote:can Auburn fans bitch about Gene Chizik?
Leave it to LSU fans to continue crying about a coach that brought us the greatest season in CFB history years after he’s already gone. He needed to go when he did but this shite is starting to get embarrassing
Posted on 8/20/23 at 12:38 pm to bdavids09
I wish Canada would have kicked O's arse when they almost came to blows
Posted on 8/20/23 at 12:41 pm to bdavids09
Jet sweeps every other play. Lol
Posted on 8/20/23 at 12:55 pm to OU812ME2
quote:
It's not like Canada went on to be some superstar Offensive genius. All he had was smoke and mirrors which may work at Pitt because they play weak undisciplined teams. That crap didn't fool anyone in the SEC.
It was still a dumb time and I wonder if O was even the one who hired him.
went to the Steeler's training camp last weekend, I had completely forgotten that's where he is, can't believe Tomlin would hire him and I feel bad for Steelers fans
Posted on 8/20/23 at 1:22 pm to bdavids09
They would have sucked. Joe burrow would have been wasted. Give O for some of the success.’fk canada
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