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How will LSU adapt to new scholarship limits? Brian Kelly's still trying to sort it out.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:00 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:00 am
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Starting with the 2025 football season, programs like LSU can roster as many as 105 scholarship players, an increase of 20 over the current 85-player limit. The change could transform the way LSU recruits players from both the high school ranks and the transfer portal.
“We have to be very, very intentional in how we do this,” Kelly said Thursday.
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But to remain compliant with Title IX, each school must offer an equal number of scholarships to its male and female athletes. If an athletic department decides to allow, say, its football program to award an extra 20 scholarships, then it must also spread 20 more scholarships across the women’s sports programs it offers.
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The NCAA and the power conferences have yet to issue guidance for how schools should divide that revenue among their athletes. But the way the NCAA is distributing back damages to plaintiffs — with 83% of the allotted $2.8 billion going to football and men’s basketball players, according to Yahoo Sports — could serve as a blueprint that lays out how athletic departments can begin sharing revenue without violating Title IX.
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Kelly said Wednesday at the Baton Rouge Rotary Club that he plans to hire a quasi-salary cap manager to oversee the financial aspects of his program so he can focus solely on football matters like his recruiting operation, which could soon undergo significant changes.
“We haven't made a decision,” Kelly said. “But to sit here at 85 — there's gonna be a lot of schools in the SEC that are gonna go to 105. We have to be competitive as well.
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Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:09 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I get what he’s saying in regards to the 2025 class, you don’t wanna go & start giving out offers to new players at this point. But he will have the ability to bring in whoever he wants in the portal.
You have to be careful in that too to not bring in a portal guy & then push one of your own guys into the portal bc of it
You have to be careful in that too to not bring in a portal guy & then push one of your own guys into the portal bc of it
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:10 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Anyone in the athletic department that stands in the way of LSU football maxing out its roster needs to be fired immediately
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:11 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Can the high dollar NIL guys pay their own way and not count as scholarships?
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:14 am to novabill
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Can the high dollar NIL guys pay their own way and not count as scholarships?
It’s a 105 man roster limit with unlimited scholarships. An NIL guy giving up his scholarship does nothing
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:18 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Wonder if this ever leads to the revival of JV / freshman leagues. 105 spots is great outside of finding the time to balance development and practice across that many players. With the unlimited staffing rule now, guessing this will lead to basically a secondary staff to run a development practice on a second field for the larger programs
The next big shift I think is coming will be opening up some of the practice limitations or expanding them. Without the facade of the NCAA looming around, curious what the boundaries on practice settle in on and who will ultimately set that
This is also just a massive stake to the heart of all the non P5 schools.
The next big shift I think is coming will be opening up some of the practice limitations or expanding them. Without the facade of the NCAA looming around, curious what the boundaries on practice settle in on and who will ultimately set that
This is also just a massive stake to the heart of all the non P5 schools.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 10:23 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:31 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
I think a big portion of this is also that they have to adjust their NIL strategy. Adding 30 scholarship players is also adding 30 guys who are likely going to want some sort of compensation. Also like someone else said, it’s another punch to the gut for non P5 schools.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:33 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Every walk on will be practicing and lifting like a mad man. You have through the season to earn a scholarship…or quit / find a new school to play (which will be much more difficult because of how many players will be in the portal).
2000 less D1 roster spots is really going to kick specialists in the nuts.
2000 less D1 roster spots is really going to kick specialists in the nuts.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:35 am to LSBoosie
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I think a big portion of this is also that they have to adjust their NIL strategy. Adding 30 scholarship players is also adding 30 guys who are likely going to want some sort of compensation.
BK also mentioned revenue sharing during his answer. Still not sure what that looks like a year from now but I think that’s something to consider when adding more scholarship athletes. Could be wrong but I think that is compensation in addition to academic scholarships
ETA: nvm it is included - “schools can count up to $2.5 million in additional scholarship costs toward the revenue sharing cap”
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 11:06 am
Posted on 8/3/24 at 10:54 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
The only thing that the extra 20 schollies does is keep some kid from going to a rival school. Once you get beyond 44, most of the guys are just practice dummies.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:27 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
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But to remain compliant with Title IX, each school must offer an equal number of scholarships to its male and female athletes. If an athletic department decides to allow, say, its football program to award an extra 20 scholarships, then it must also spread 20 more scholarships across the women’s sports programs it offers.
Or just cut the men’s swimming program.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:37 am to JimTiger72
By a millionaire football player giving up his scholly, it saves LSU from having to grant a scholly to a woman to keep the numbers balanced per Title 9.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:46 am to PlaySomeHonk
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By a millionaire football player giving up his scholly, it saves LSU from having to grant a scholly to a woman to keep the numbers balanced per Title 9.
Why does it matter? LSU has plenty of $
Posted on 8/3/24 at 11:51 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
85 was too many. 105 is ridiculous.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:32 pm to tigerwith3
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Or just cut the men’s swimming program.
It could be marketed better. Based on early Olympic social media attention, we’re missing a lot of opportunities.
Gotta showcase the bulges. Women and gay dudes like Larry Leo will show up.
Cross Country seems to be something that’s tough for spectators to get into. Let’s cut that shite. We already have track and field. Track and field in the woods and pastures doesn’t seem like much of a sport.
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:37 pm to Major Dutch Schaefer
It definitely helps top schools in regards to kickers and punters. Have always had to be very selective and offer very few to save the numbers for other positions. Now you can offer several and they sort it out during practice/early games. In the past, if you had the wrong guy there you were screwed.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 12:49 pm to tigerskin
I think the exact opposite. (to be honest, my son had a PWO+NIL offer to UF that turned into a full scholarship offer the day this rule changed was announced…so to some you’re right) How many kickers and punters do you think they’ll scholarship? 2 kickers, 2 punters, and 2 snappers is what I hear. Previously there’d be 3-4 walk ons in each position and a scholarship player.
Better damn make sure you get the right 2 ‘now’. Most coaching staffs are pretty bad at judging specialists from high school.
Better damn make sure you get the right 2 ‘now’. Most coaching staffs are pretty bad at judging specialists from high school.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:02 pm to Gaston
But those lower regarded walk ons for the most part had no shot. Now you can have 2 higher level players battling it out.
I am saying it helps the top schools. You are looking at it from your son’s perspective (which still helped him obviously).
I am saying it helps the top schools. You are looking at it from your son’s perspective (which still helped him obviously).
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:11 pm to tigerskin
I’m not. My son was already a scholarship player…if anything it helps him from one of those walk-ons stealing his spot (Rod the kicker at UGA). He just has to beat out one kid now. Also helps him because he’ll get a redshirt freshman year on scholarship, potentially.
I see it pinching kids that love the school they’re at. Aiden Corbello at LSU. They’ll be a flood of kids transferring…and the ‘25s that would have gladly walked on (Bruno at Alabama) at big schools will simply not be able to earn those spots. They’ll only scholarship when they need.
LSU holding 3 scholarship kickers right now is a testament to how hard it is to pick kickers…we still won’t be able to hit a 55 yd field goal.
I see it pinching kids that love the school they’re at. Aiden Corbello at LSU. They’ll be a flood of kids transferring…and the ‘25s that would have gladly walked on (Bruno at Alabama) at big schools will simply not be able to earn those spots. They’ll only scholarship when they need.
LSU holding 3 scholarship kickers right now is a testament to how hard it is to pick kickers…we still won’t be able to hit a 55 yd field goal.
This post was edited on 8/3/24 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 8/3/24 at 1:14 pm to Gaston
Does the new rule not allow walk ons in addition to raising the numbers to 105 scholarships?
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