re: How we move on from Brian Kelly after this season

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Think they’ll invest in the portal like we need to?

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There is a funded plan in place for NIL (HS players, existing players we want to keep) and new portal players. That plan will execute no matter who the coach is.

Coaches are important but you win nothing without good players.

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People scream about the buyout yet Penn State

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Comparing LSU and PSU financially is apples and oranges. They have a very active (financially) alumni/fan base. They also have billionaire donors we dont. I also think PSU has a deal on oil produced on state land like UT does, not certain.

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negotiate a smaller buy out.

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These talks need to be happening right now. BK is 65 and there is zero time off for college HC these days, not 1. Legacy as a coach I would imagine is important to him as well. Money in the bank, BK has made a ton of money over his career so just how big a deal would it be to him to gift us a year in salary?

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I've heard these contract require that you have to take another similar job in the field and they are only paid the difference.

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That's not true. No agent would ever agree to that and it probably violates right to work laws.

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It’s the boosters who are already done with him

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Ah, hopium.

Woodward hit on too many coaches at LSU. He made an effort to bring in a proven winner, and after 2022, we thought he had hit that. BK has lost the fire, so now it's time to move on.

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Why? Because BK may take less to walk. 25 million to go play golf?

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If BK agrees to less than 30 million, he is gone. The problem is we would probably have to get destroyed in the next two games and he would have to publicly agree to step aside as soon as possible if we are to get the HC we want.

There's a reason Florida fired Napier after a win. They have a target and are taking their shot before the end of the year when there will be numerous jobs available.

While highly unlikely I do think there’s a chance he decides to get out for less. He will be faced with asking for NIL money from people who hate him lol

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I’m just a fan, not a booster funding his contract or the collective. You can stomp your feet and bang your keyboard all you want, but you’re not the one stroking those checks either. LSU isn’t firing a coach over a 7–5 season, a 70% win rate, and a $52M buyout…then turning around to pay another staff and drop $20M+ in new NIL money. Be realistic.

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You don't know what money they have to play with. Sure it sounds unrealistic to your average joe, but the cost of keeping him might not be worth it in the long run.

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You don't know what money they have to play with. Sure it sounds unrealistic to your average joe, but the cost of keeping him might not be worth it in the long run.

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It's really simple. It costs nothing to keep him. It will cost 9 figures to fire him and his staff and hire a new one.

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On top of a $52M buyout, some of y’all aren’t comprehending the absurd optics of firing him or the difference from those other programs.

Brian Kelly at LSU:
-Overall: 34–13 (.72)
-This season: 5–2 -Two losses, both to Top 10 teams
-Combined margin: 12 points

I get the frustration, and I’m right there with you on needing changes at OC and OL first. But firing him now would be financially stupid and optically worse to any coach you want to bring in.

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Great point. Also, as fricked up as Ed had the program, he was literally fired mid-season less than 2 years from fielding the best team in college football history.

And the only “full season” he had before the mid season firing wasn’t a full season at all—it was the fricked up COVID season where there was racial dissent amongst the team, we lost our starting QB for the season in the 2nd game and had to play the rest with true freshmen QBs, and still somehow pulled a 5-5 record out of his arse with an upset win over Florida to end the year. And it was an all SEC schedule with zero cupcakes, and we didn’t even have the Tiger Stadium advantage because almost no fans were allowed that year.

The ‘21 season was worse, but Scott fired him in October and let him finish out the season.

The point—to add to yours—is that’s not very good job security to entice a good coach. It’d take another BK like contract to poach any coach we’d actually want. It’d actually probably take more money annually. May not have to give him a 10-year contract, but it’d have to be at least 7 or 8. Unless we take a swing on an unproven up and comer, and those flame out way more than they hit. But, we’d still have to deal with the “LSU is not the place to learn on the job” crowd.