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how was LSU an 8 seed in 2009?(Basketball)

Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:12 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:12 pm
this something i have never understood how LSU was an 8 seed. That team was pretty damn good and then got matched up with UNC in the 2nd round. We were down one with 4 minutes left and Ty Lawson leads UNC on a 20-7 run.
Posted by LordoftheManor
Member since Jul 2006
8371 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:13 pm to
Butler as a 9 seed was an abomination as well.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
70761 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:14 pm to
The SEC really fricked us over with a weak RPI.

That LSU team was atleast a sweet 16 and could have been an elite-8 team. Only team in the tournament that had a lead over eventual champ UNC in the 2nd half.
Posted by Ignignot
Member since Mar 2009
18823 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:16 pm to
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The SEC really fricked us over with a weak RPI.


yep bottom line
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13027 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:16 pm to
That was the year the selection committee chair said during his selection show interview that Tennessee had a great year and was the outright SEC champion. LSU ran away with the conference by 3 games and Miss St won the tournament.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:21 pm to
yeah, LSU got fricked royally. Not only were they an 8 seed but were fated to play the strongest 9 seed and the strongest 1 seed.
Posted by Tiger Live2
Westwego, LA
Member since Mar 2012
9590 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:21 pm to
My friend a Duke fan and a much bigger bball fan than me, said we got screwed big time
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:24 pm to
quote:

My friend a Duke fan and a much bigger bball fan than me, said we got screwed big time

i remember watching the selection show waiting for them to show where LSU was, thinking they would be anywhere from 4-6 and they show us as an 8 seed.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:24 pm to
I will never forget going to Greensboro and having the entire Duke contingent there raucously supporting us in that game.
Posted by geauxtigers585
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
3832 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:25 pm to
I was so pissed when I found out we were an 8 seed. Although we did put up a bigger fight against UNC than any other team did. Still cant believe we lost that game. We had them. Lawson went off though towards the end
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
15871 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:25 pm to
I remember the UNC boards also said we were no 8 seed after we played them. They felt like they got screwed too having to play us in the 2nd round.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17994 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

I will never forget going to Greensboro and having the entire Duke contingent there raucously supporting us in that game.


That's awesome.

Posted by lsutigers1992
Member since Mar 2006
25317 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:37 pm to
It's what I hate about college basketball. If I remember correctly, Tennessee beat one of the #1 teams in late November, which the selection obviously thinks is more important than what you do in January and February in conference. It's part of their agenda to make teams play more TV-friendly games in November and December and rewarding them for it.

EDIT: Had the wrong year for Tennessee. It was 10-11. They beat Pitt and Villanova the first two weeks of the season but went 4-7 the last month of the season and lost by 30 in the first game of the tournament.
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 4:55 pm
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:38 pm to
yea how does the 20th ranked team in the nation become an 8 seed. and butler was 16 in the final poll

ETA: also the week before the final rankings we were ranked 12
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 4:45 pm
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68289 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:53 pm to
The SEC was so weak it really hurt us come selection time. Even though our resume said 6-7 seed, we got an 8 and against the best 1 and Butler team who also got the shaft seeding wise.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:55 pm to
2006: won SEC conference, lost semifinal game of conference tournament, ranked 19th in final AP poll, 18th in final Coaches poll. RPI 13
result=4 seed

2009: won SEC conference, lost semifinal game of conference tournament, ranked 20th in final AP poll, 16th in final Coaches poll. RPI 34
result=8 seed

so basically our non-conference schedule was extremely important to our seeding in 2006 and detrimental to our seeding in 2009. In 2006, LSU played 3 road non-conference games against ranked teams (beating WVU and losing on the final possession to tOSU and UCONN). In 2009, LSU played 1 home non-conference game against a ranked team (lost to Xavier).

The SEC was dreadful both years. Florida was the only ranked conference team LSU played in 2006 while LSU was the only ranked team in the SEC in 2009.

Key lesson: non-conference is extremely important
This post was edited on 2/15/13 at 4:58 pm
Posted by biglil3
West Monroe
Member since Jan 2010
2049 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 4:59 pm to
That '09 UNC was STACKED...LSU only team that pushed them in tourney, UNC bulldozed everyone else
Posted by glenoaks
Austin
Member since Mar 2009
3334 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:01 pm to
I remember 2009 like it was yesterday. Everyone complained about the 8th seed. It was definately a issue.
Posted by saintsfan92612
Taiwan
Member since Oct 2008
28842 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:03 pm to
yeah, Marcus was hot for a good chunk of the second half. When he was hot, LSU could beat just about anyone. Hell just look at the 2008 team in Maui how he single-handedly kept those games close.
Posted by fightingtigers98
Member since Oct 2011
13228 posts
Posted on 2/15/13 at 5:12 pm to
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yeah, Marcus was hot for a good chunk of the second half. When he was hot, LSU could beat just about anyone. Hell just look at the 2008 team in Maui how he single-handedly kept those games close.

still pissed the hornets traded him
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