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How to fix NIL and yearly transfers.. Your thoughts

Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22659 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:37 pm
Make all NIL “Contracts” 2 way guaranteed. If a player signs for three years at let’s say $500,000 per year and transfers, He/she or the team they are transferring to must buy out the contract. Like wise if they stay the three years or, are injured the school they are attending must pay out the remainder of the contract.

It may sound dumb but these kids want to be payed as employees like coaches, so shouldn’t they play by the same rules..
Posted by tgdk11
Member since Nov 2017
1474 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:38 pm to
Put 1 yr sit out penalty onto transfers. Make it matter when you commit to 1 school, or choose another. Just like it used to matter. Would stop 90% of this
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 12:39 pm
Posted by Helmethead
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1193 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:40 pm to
Have no money be allowed to be paid until the 366th day at that school. Be here a year and show me you are committed to doing what the players before you have already done. That would end the recruiting bidding wars, and also end the jumping at the end of each season as that clock would start over again.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:42 pm to
Won't work. You make them try to sign that contract, they will just go to another school that won't.

There is no quick, easy way to change the path we are on.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9657 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:42 pm to
quote:

Make all NIL “Contracts” 2 way guaranteed.


that is against most state NIL laws.

NIL contracts cannot tie any kid to any specific school.
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
102202 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:42 pm to
NIL is escrowed except for a room and board stipend. Balance upon graduation.

Buyout clause like coaches contracts.

No tampering rules.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22659 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Won't work. You make them try to sign that contract, they will just go to another school that won't. There is no quick, easy way to change the path we are on.





Not if all schools do it.
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22659 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:44 pm to
If school collectives are paying kids, they are tied to schools..
Posted by WHS
walker LA.
Member since Feb 2006
3298 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:46 pm to
Something has to happen! These kids should not be allowed to transfer from year to year without any penalty at all. There should be a penalty or something for when they transfer early.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Not if all schools do it.


If all schools acted in tune, we wouldn't have huge coaching buyouts and high school seniors being offered $11 Mil.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9657 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

If school collectives are paying kids, they are tied to schools..


not legally they aren't.

it is against the law in most states with NIL laws to have any language anywhere in the contract that ties a kid to a school.

quote:

NIL contracts also cannot require that an intercollegiate athlete attend a particular institution.


Louisiana NIL law
Posted by mike4lsu
Baton Rouge,LA
Member since Sep 2005
1723 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 12:57 pm to
Fixing NIL:

Break up NCAA football into:

[1] Top League: Big 10+SEC+ACC
[2] 2nd League: Big 12 and other bowl subdivisions
[3] 3rd League: FCS
[4] 4th League: Division 2

Each league should be a corporate entity and all coaches and players would have to be on contract with an universal set of laws.

Make league 3 & 4 pure armature leagues with strict coaching salary caps and nothing but scholarships for players.

Institute player & coaching contracts, a salary cap for players and coaches in league 2 like the NFL does and have a championship game for conference champions like for 3 & 4 already. Have a limited number of bowls for other teams with a winning record

Institute higher value player & coaching contracts, Institute a higher salary cap for players and coaches in league 1 like the NFL does and have a championship game for conference champions have a 12 team playoff like we have right now. Have a limited number of bowls for other teams with a winning record

Fixing Transfer Portal:

[1] Do not allow any coach hiring or firing or any transfer until the championship games.
[2] Do not allow any transfers until the season ending.
[3] Allow all transfers to happen between 1st Feb and 1st March
[4] Move national signing day to 1st March.
[5] Schools need to give consent for players to transfer. Otherwise players need to sit out an year.
[6] Players with legal, disciplinary issues and academic issues need to sit out an year before transferring.
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
32033 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:00 pm to
Legally they are not employment contracts in the sense that the player is being paid to play football. That means they can't obligate a player to play for a specific school...or even at all. Your "fix" legally will not work.

NIL contracts, in essence, are akin to a bribe to encourage a player to play for a certain school. However, they are not employment contracts in that a player is an "employee" of LSU or even whoever signed them to an NIL deal. You have to be able to separate the practical effect (pay for play) from the legal effect (pay for use of NIL)
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

payed


Posted by JimTiger72
Member since Jun 2023
11371 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:02 pm to
It’s also a myth that guys are signing “multi-year contracts”.

They might agree to a deal, but the actual contracts are per semester/NIL window so the school doesn’t lose money if a player leaves.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

It’s also a myth that guys are signing “multi-year contracts”.

They might agree to a deal, but the actual contracts are per semester/NIL window so the school doesn’t lose money if a player leaves.


Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
31205 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:08 pm to
Getting rid of the 1 yr sit out penalty is the problem.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
9657 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

They might agree to a deal, but the actual contracts are per semester/NIL window so the school doesn’t lose money if a player leaves.


technically speaking, the money isn't coming from the schools at all.
schools are allowed to have "3rd party" booster systems to collect, organize and disperse the money. but the money can not come from the school itself (or any employee/agent of the school).

that's why BK's donation match isn't going into an NIL fund but a different branch of TAF.


Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
21658 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

If school collectives are paying kids, they are tied to schools..


Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27347 posts
Posted on 12/17/24 at 1:15 pm to
NIL isnt as big of an issue as unlimited transfers. Could you imagine the NFL going to only 1-year contracts and free agency starting prior to the playoffs?

It’s insane
This post was edited on 12/17/24 at 1:17 pm
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