re: How much money does Orgeron deserve now?

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We owe him whatever the contract says we owe him.
—-downvote for your last sentence

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Following your logic, can we pay any coach less than the agreed to contract value if they under-perform?

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I think Ed deserves a good bump in pay, particularly if he wind the Natty. I don't think it should yet be to Saban or Dabo levels, but decent. Even with a bump LSU athletics will still have plenty of money to supply high paid assistants. Remember Woodward is working to phase out the fund transfer from athletics to the schools general fund (which I think is a shame),so the athletic dept. will be flush.

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I see no reason not to have him somewhere north of $5mil with some very health incentives extended through another full recruiting cycle. Even if he doesn't win this next game.

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You say this like it isn't a fair question. How'd our offense look without Brady?

Actually, we broke LSU offense records. Furthermore, LSU didn't have a QB capable enough, nor did we really have anyone in the pipeline. O recognized that, and went out and got Burrow.

[quote]But let's not pretend he is the sole reason for this turnaround. inb4youactlikei'mnotgivingOanycreditforgettingbrady
O deserves all the credit for identifying the greatness in Brady and getting him, but O would be the first person to tell yo that his staff shares responsibility for the success this year.

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He is the head coach and he is the ultimate decision maker for the program. Smart leaders listen to good people and hire good people, and ANY DECENT COACH is always going to praise others and give the credit to other coaches when things go well. But great leaders will take all the blame when it doesn't.

I think it's hilarious that any good hire that O makes gets most of the praise from the negatigers as being the one the deserves the credit. Ha. I mean, just think about that statement.

For someone that "can't stand on his own", he's gone out and assembled a hell of a staff and recruited some pretty outstanding players. LOL.

He deserves a huge bonus more than a yearly raise. Orgeron is all LSU and is not leaving for another college or NFL job so it is not like you have to protect people from poaching him. Protect the coordinators until they have the opportunity they can not pass up.

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You were the village leader idiot on anti O campaign.

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This isn't close to true, but go ahead.

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Protect the coordinators until they have the opportunity they can not pass up.

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No thanks... I'm going to protect the man that is recognizing talent (coaches and players). Actually, I'm gong to "reward" the man recognizing the talent. I'm going to reward the guy that has restructured the program to make it more efficient. I'm going to reward the man who recognized our weaknesses and fought like hell to turn them into strengths.

How stupid to say, "O isn't leaving so we don't need to worry about people poaching him". This is your attitude?

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It's not the straightforward with Orgeron because he sold his position as needing high dollar coordinators. I think he'll get a very big raise. But, I don't think he'll get the kind of money you are talking about.

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You’re acting like there is a finite amount of money that we’re dealing with. A championship season lines the coffers. The money will be there to both give a raise to O and pay the assistants

Are you ever going to provide that link?

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Lmao so he should get stiffed because he’s loyal to LSU? People want to hire him now, but he’s not leaving LSU for anything.

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It's not getting "stiffed" because he's loyal to LSU. It's a matter of not unnecessarily overpaying when his market is basically one team...LSU.

What big time program, with big time money, do you see coming after Orgeron right now? That answer is zero. But if they do, LSU is certainly well positioned to match/beat any offer. Then you have to factor in the question for O of could he duplicate this success at another school? That would required another school to be willing to pay over $4 million per year for their OC/DC IN ADDITION to paying a huge salary to their HC (which is what they would have to pay to outbid LSU if it came to that). How many schools (a) are willing to do so and (b) are "better" opportunities than LSU? The answer is very few.

If LSU were to consider giving O a massive raise they would be bidding against themselves and locking them into an unnecessarily large commitment which would prevent them from making a change down the line should it become necessary. O simply doesn't have the negotiating leverage to force LSU to give him a huge deal.

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It's not getting "stiffed" because he's loyal to LSU. It's a matter of not unnecessarily overpaying when his market is basically one team...LSU.

What big time program, with big time money, do you see coming after Orgeron right now? That answer is zero. But if they do, LSU is certainly well positioned to match/beat any offer. Then you have to factor in the question for O of could he duplicate this success at another school? That would required another school to be willing to pay over $4 million per year for their OC/DC IN ADDITION to paying a huge salary to their HC (which is what they would have to pay to outbid LSU if it came to that). How many schools (a) are willing to do so and (b) are "better" opportunities than LSU? The answer is very few.

If LSU were to consider giving O a massive raise they would be bidding against themselves and locking them into an unnecessarily large commitment which would prevent them from making a change down the line should it become necessary. O simply doesn't have the negotiating leverage to force LSU to give him a huge deal.

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The mere fact that O loves LSU and is loyal should not dissuade LSU from paying him as one of the top SEC coaches. No one has advocated paying him stupid money or giving him something that could hurt LSU if he were to tank. But you cannot escape the fact that O saved LSU a shite ton of money, and significantly outperformed most everyone out there making more. O's love for LSU should not be used against him, and by not giving him a reasonable contract based on his performance would be reprehensible.