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re: How much better would Jordan JJefferson/Brandon Harris have been under Joe Brady?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:39 am to La Place Mike
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:39 am to La Place Mike
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Terry Robiskie?
Probably catch more passes and have fewer carries.
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:46 am to FightinTigersDammit
Do y'all remember what kind of quarterback Brandon Harris was at Parkview? He ran a similar system to what we're running right now. If he'd been recruited and groomed in our current system, he would've been LIGHT YEARS better than he was. Would he be as accurate as Burrow? I dunno about that. But he would've been great in this system as well. Unfortunately, he was a round peg that Miles and Cameron were trying to continuously trying to fit into a square hole.
Additionally, as much as he's maligned, Jefferson would be great in this system as well. People forget how much success he had in 2010 and 2011. They got blown out against Alabama in the championship game. But he's still the only LSU QB in the last 10-20 years that beat a Nick Saban coached Alabama twice in his career.
We have to remember, these guys would've been GROOMED in this system. They'd have both been better.
Additionally, as much as he's maligned, Jefferson would be great in this system as well. People forget how much success he had in 2010 and 2011. They got blown out against Alabama in the championship game. But he's still the only LSU QB in the last 10-20 years that beat a Nick Saban coached Alabama twice in his career.
We have to remember, these guys would've been GROOMED in this system. They'd have both been better.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:54 am to radicalizedtigah
Not much, they were not consistent, they could not read defense like Burrow, they did not deliver the ball on time like now. Coaching can draw it up, tell them what to read, but can't make them process information faster.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:08 am to lsualum96
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Do y'all remember what kind of quarterback Brandon Harris was at Parkview? He ran a similar system to what we're running right now. If he'd been recruited and groomed in our current system, he would've been LIGHT YEARS better than he was. Would he be as accurate as Burrow? I dunno about that. But he would've been great in this system as well. Unfortunately, he was a round peg that Miles and Cameron were trying to continuously trying to fit into a square hole.
Additionally, as much as he's maligned, Jefferson would be great in this system as well. People forget how much success he had in 2010 and 2011. They got blown out against Alabama in the championship game. But he's still the only LSU QB in the last 10-20 years that beat a Nick Saban coached Alabama twice in his career.
We have to remember, these guys would've been GROOMED in this system. They'd have both been better.
You put too much credit into an athlete at the High School level who is just physically better than everyone else.
At this level, all that goes away and the mental part is more important than the physical.
At the college level that was those guys weakness.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:09 am to radicalizedtigah
Can't make a silk purse out of a sows ear. 
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:10 am to notiger1997
JJ could not implement crowtons scheme in 2009
it is well known
that is why miles took over in 2010 and went back to BO BALL!
FACTS!
it is well known
that is why miles took over in 2010 and went back to BO BALL!
FACTS!
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:16 am to radicalizedtigah
Fair questions, actually.
There is a reason Oklahoma, Clemson, etc, rock out almost every year. There’s a reason Alabama had a string of consistent QB play, as well.
You commit to something in practice and then execute that. Les Miles, bless his heart, committed to power running and playing defense. That will win games but not championships, not anymore.
In this system, Jefferson and Harris would have been better. Great? No. Better? Yes.
There is a reason Oklahoma, Clemson, etc, rock out almost every year. There’s a reason Alabama had a string of consistent QB play, as well.
You commit to something in practice and then execute that. Les Miles, bless his heart, committed to power running and playing defense. That will win games but not championships, not anymore.
In this system, Jefferson and Harris would have been better. Great? No. Better? Yes.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:32 am to Kungfugeorgeporter
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Did you watch him in NC? Turrible
To be fair his confidence was shot by then and you also have to ask yourself how did Fedora work out at UNC
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:34 am to radicalizedtigah
Lee would have won the Heisman!
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:45 am to HubbaBubba
He was ranked #2 in the sec when miles benched him, and ties the record at lsu for most passes without an interception. Most people realize that.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:48 am to radicalizedtigah
JJ should have been a triple option type QB.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:51 am to radicalizedtigah
Marginal. Jordan Jefferson and Harris could not understand or make the calls.. could not get us in the right play.
Both of them had Accuracy issues. Harris inparticular. Jefferson had a very very slow release.
Jefferson could not move through progressions either
Both of them had Accuracy issues. Harris inparticular. Jefferson had a very very slow release.
Jefferson could not move through progressions either
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:54 am to tigerfan5803
Jarrett Lee would have been really good and we would have won the NC for sure in 2011
Posted on 9/15/19 at 11:57 am to FightinTigersDammit
quote:
Probably catch more passes and have fewer carries.
quote:
Terry Robiskie?
Was recruited as a QB to run the veer.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:28 pm to La Place Mike
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Terry Robiskie
He was in school when I was. He played running back.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:44 pm to lsualum96
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Jefferson would be great in this system as well. People forget how much success he had in 2010 and 2011.
Yea people do forget because he was terrible after his sophomore year. He digressed big time. In 2011 he played with one of the best defenses ever at LSU. The games he won weren't because of his QB play.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:51 pm to lsualum96
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Do y'all remember what kind of quarterback Brandon Harris was at Parkview? He ran a similar system to what we're running right now. If he'd been recruited and groomed in our current system, he would've been LIGHT YEARS better than he was. Would he be as accurate as Burrow? I dunno about that. But he would've been great in this system as well. Unfortunately, he was a round peg that Miles and Cameron were trying to continuously trying to fit into a square hole.
Yeah, but they ran a similar system for him and North Carolina and he still struggled. I think Brady would have done better than CAM/Les with him but we would have still been compromised by his lack of accuracy.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:54 pm to Tiger Ugly
Burrow is going through progressions. Look at the first passing play of Harris’s junior year @lambeau field. He broke the huddle and had already decided he was throwing to M.Dupre.
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:55 pm to radicalizedtigah
Not much, you need passing talent to lead a passing offense. Having good legs doesn't make much of a difference. Does Drew Brees run the ball a lot?
Posted on 9/15/19 at 12:55 pm to radicalizedtigah
How much better would Drew Brees have been under Joe Brady?
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