re: How many of you were won over by O yesterday?

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even though I've given my reasons for saying that the Ole Miss days were relevant.

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you could make an argument at the time Orgeron was hired that they were relevant if you wanted to. Of course there was a whole lot more to look at than just that.


But as of right now, right fricking now, it does not matter what his record was at Ole Miss, it only matters what he does at LSU. To me, so far so good. There have been some issues as there would be with any coach, but I like the way he handles things. We will see how it works out. The season has to play out. And to the couple idiots somewhere in some posts up above and way back, no one is more fans of Orgeron than they are of LSU (except maybe his mom and his wife). But if LSU has a good season then Orgeron has a good season and vice versa. So yes I am a fan of Orgeron, same as I was with Miles and every other coach LSU has had. So yes I do want Orgeron to be successful here at LSU otherwise LSU gets set way back and not just for this season.

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a bigger buyout and a higher contract than CLM had...how is that not an issue? You really don't think the financials came into play?

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We've had the highest paid staff in the country before, no financials aren't an issue for us.

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But as of right now, right fricking now, it does not matter what his record was at Ole Miss

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The only people bringing it up are you guys.

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The defense is putting the offense in favorable conditions. It's disingenuous to say otherwise. Every single game we've had our defense make a play that either scores or puts our offense on a short field with ~30 yards to go for a TD. Pardon me if I'm not giving the offense credit for that. Hey, it's a good blueprint, provided that the defense can keep giving the offense short fields. But I think sooner or later the offense has to be able to string together long, methodical drives that end in TDs, and do it consistently. That's what good offenses do.

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I totally agree with you. That was well-stated. Football is a team sport, thank goodness. It is working for us now. But yes, the offense needs improvement and we are working toward that. We are building and that never happens overnight. We are moving forward, posting wins, and surprising a lot of people.

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you could make an argument at the time Orgeron was hired that they were relevant if you wanted to.

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Isn't that the whole point of the conversation that people are having in this thread? He is absolutely putting that discussion to bed right now. But, the skepticism in the off season was due to him making those same mistakes in 2017. So far, this year everything seems to be running very smoothly and I'm excited to see just how good this team can be.

LSU beat Auburn in Jordan Hare twice in the last 10 years.

LSU lost to a sunbelt team for the first time in 36 games vs sunbelt teams.

just a little perspective.

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a bigger buyout and a higher contract than CLM had...how is that not an issue? You really don't think the financials came into play

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They did but not for the reason you seem to be implying and THAT is the failure of leadership. Our AD makes a metric shite ton of $$ We could easily afford Fisher at 10/75M though in 2015 it was more like 10/65-70M

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you are being disingenuous if you say it hasn't been beaten to death on this board by the O haters since day 1

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It was warranted then. (Basically) no one is doing it now as far as I can see.

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The fact that you don't know this while being condescending about the money is kind of funny.

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I remember the HC having it in his contract to make $1 more than the highest coach with winning a national championship. I have no idea what coordinators were being paid back then. I would doubt your statement applies to the last 5-6 years

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Not in 15.

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Yes, in 15. He wanted roughly the same deal then that he got from aTm with the yearly salary being slightly lower. His selling point was always the term, because of the security he could get from it to run his program how he perceived FSU wasn't allowing him to. Alexander and the board approved paying 6.8 a year, and then scoffed when Sexton countered for 10 years, leading to the story about "pulling the plug".

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It's been fricking done a million times. Go read the old threads. Again, no name will satisfy you. You will discount whatever anyone says, which is why no one is playing your stupid game.

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bullshite. I could play devil's advocate and name a few off the top of my head, yet nothing close to the "30+ qualified coaches" that gets touted on here, which is the entire point.