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re: How many of you were won over by O yesterday?

Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:57 pm to
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:57 pm to
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bitch fest


Is it really that though? Who hasn't give the staff their props for the start to this season?
Posted by TigerLunatik
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 2:58 pm to
What he's doing now is absolutely exceptional. People are still hung up on why fans had doubts about him this past off season. It's crazy.
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Is it really that though? Who hasn't give the staff their props for the start to this season?


I think most everyone has, but I'm guessing praise is not enough.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:01 pm to
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Is it really that though?
relitigating he hiring process, or O’s time at Ole Miss or Joe Allevas time at Duke at this point in the season is a bitch fest. So yeah.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:03 pm to
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Almost any P5 coach would have made mores sense than 0. 30 is conservative. You will not be satisfied by any of the names.


This is the clear bias that people are calling you out for. If you can't at least acknowledge that circumstance and the ongoing success of the Dabo model put Orgeron at least in the top 10 then you're completely unreasonable. Even without 20/20 hindsight there were a few names that likely should have been ahead of Orgeron, but there damn sure weren't 30.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:06 pm to
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The coaches before and after 0 at Ole Miss had success.


Ole Miss won 10 games twice in 46 years and hasn't won a sec championship in over 50 years. Their program prior to Freeze was not interested in doing what it takes to compete in the SEC.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Ole Miss won 10 games twice in 46 years and hasn't won a sec championship in over 50 years. Their program prior to Freeze was not interested in doing what it takes to compete in the SEC.


None of that changes that 0 was the worst by far Why can't you accept that?
Posted by boxcar willie
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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already been done, numerous times. I'm speaking from experience. The names get shot down without fail. Total waste of time to have the "who would you have hired" name game.


well god dam just pull a few names out your arse then? Name 3 college coaches we could have hired who would so obviously have us 3-0 right now and would be doing so much better than O?

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It's already been done, numerous times.


today was the first time I have seen someone name even one name who they think would be better, Fuente from Virgina Tech.
so now your turn, name them, go:
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Goldrush25
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:07 pm to
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Even without 20/20 hindsight there were a few names that likely should have been ahead of Orgeron, but there damn sure weren't 30.


I don't know what we're still talking about if we've come to this admission.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:08 pm to


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If you can't at least acknowledge that circumstance and the ongoing success of the Dabo model put Orgeron at least in the top 10 then you're completely unreasonable.


The top 10? No I will never admit that.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70043 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
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let Canada have free reign of the offense


I don't remember this quote? Is this something made up? Why are all the o haters supportive of canada anyway?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
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relitigating he hiring process, or O’s time at Ole Miss or Joe Allevas time at Duke at this point in the season is a bitch fest. So yeah.


Take a look at who is bringing these issues up. It's not the "negas"
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:09 pm to
I atill Think Dabo is more involved in the offense than people give him credit for.

When Morris left the offense kept plugging away with internal hires.either Dabo has 3 top OCs on staff at one point or Dabo has more to do with the offense than he is given credit for.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:10 pm to
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I don't remember this quote? Is this something made up?


Dude, do you even pay attention to LSU football or do you just come here to troll? You don't know about money, you really didn't pay attention to the hiring process. What exactly do you know?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108740 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Why are all the o haters supportive of canada anyway?

I never cared for the Canada offense. He should never have been hired and it made me skeptical of Orgeron's hiring process. Hopefully this year's result will show he's learned in that area. He's off to a great start.
This post was edited on 9/17/18 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:13 pm to
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None of that changes that 0 was the worst by far Why can't you accept that?


I don't care. Hell Miles proved we don't have to have a great coach to win here.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Hell Miles proved we don't have to have a great coach to win here.

Yea, done responding to you too.
Posted by boxcar willie
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
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Even without 20/20 hindsight there were a few names that likely should have been ahead of Orgeron, but there damn sure weren't 30.



I would like to see three that are reasonable even with 20/20 hindsight. If fact it has to be with 20/20 hindsight because now we know a little more about Orgeron and about these other coaches.


Fuente is not a bad start. But I don't think his name got much traction at all on this board. I remember looking into him myself and thinking he would be a good possibility. But there was something with him that made him not possible. Alcoholic dating coeds or something like that I believe.



Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:17 pm to
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I don't know what we're still talking about if we've come to this admission.




Do you know their agents didn't get calls? There's so much selective memory to this time period. You latch on to the last week and think that was the entire process. There was three months from when Miles was fired to when Orgeron was named the HC. That's a long time for agents to talk. Maybe no one wanted to work for Alleva, hell I could buy that given his hamstringing of Miles, but this notion that he had 15 to 20 more qualified applicants lined up at his door and pushed them all aside for O is a pure rant fairy tale.
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
70043 posts
Posted on 9/17/18 at 3:18 pm to
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Dude, do you even pay attention to LSU football or do you just come here to troll? You don't know about money, you really didn't pay attention to the hiring process. What exactly do you know?


I know that some people interpret coach speak differently than I do. Anyone who really believes a HC isn't going to have authority and input with what his DC and OC run is a moron.

Money...we had highest paid assistants from 2011-2016 but that doesn't mean we were paying more than Bama and Clemson. Also getting Jimbo could have cost us Aranda...Jimbo isn't coach O and he would decide what coaches he brings in or retains at LSU.
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