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re: How many LSU basketball players will not return for next season?

Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:43 am to
Posted by Jester
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 10:43 am to
I could keep going, but I'm not trying to argue a stupid point. Every coach has players transfer out.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 11:13 am to
Please don't fall into the "let's talk about Brady" trap. It's a bottomless pit that you can't climb out of.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:04 pm to
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Most likely candidates, IMO, are JOBIII, Ralston Turner and/or Andre Stringer.



Based on what?

Tarot cards....



Seriously, just my observing them during games during timeouts or while on the bench. They didn't seem to be focused on what was being said or what was happening on the court. In the past, that lack of focus seemed to precede the player leaving the team in the offseason.

Believe me, I want to be wrong and probably AM wrong. Some posters in this thread have made some valid points about the players I listed which gives me comfort that maybe those players are more committed to the team than I surmised.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:07 pm to
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And you can't possibly count NBA players that left early against him.


So 16 players played as seniors in 11 years?

NBAers: Swift, Smith, Bass, Davis, Thomas, & Randolph?




This post was edited on 3/14/12 at 12:14 pm
Posted by alajones
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Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:38 pm to
Well no one would count players leaving for the NBA early. That is 16 players you listed, subtracting players who left for the NBA, how many could have finished their eligibility?
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:43 pm to
they are all leaving they are all so awesome every school/nba team in the country wants them , they would be stupid to stay at LSU where they won so many games
Posted by Slickback
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 12:49 pm to
If I had to bet on someone leaving it would be Jalen Courtney. If he couldn't get on the court this year, I don't see much hope for him in the future.

I don't know why any of our starters would leave. But I also don't know their academic statuses and relationships with TJ>
Posted by tom
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:13 pm to
This thread is full of stupid. Why would Ludwig or Courtney be considering leaving right now? We have no big men signed. As it stands those two will get lots of minutes next season.

And in general, this team underperformed compared to it's talent level. I don't see anyone cutting and running because the team's lack of performance is on the players more than any other circumstance.

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:15 pm to
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“We made a lot of progress this year,” Turner said. “We have a good nucleus of guys coming back, so I’m satisfied with that.”


from the article on the advocate. doesn't sound like he's going anywhere right now.

this quote from stringer...

quote:

"Obviously some teams come to play, some don’t; tonight, we didn’t,” Stringer said. “All throughout this year, we had some times where we didn’t come to play, and we got beat. Make no mistake about it, when we play hard, we’re very good.”


well frick, play hard then.
Posted by AreJay
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:18 pm to
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So 16 players played as seniors in 11 years?


I count 45 players he brought in (aside from that final season, which I'm not counting b/c any guys leaving then i cant give him 'credit' for. So that's 10 seasons.

I count 23 players finishing elgibility out of those 45. With 4 leaving to go pro.

However those 1st 2 yrs, he had pretty good excuses, you remove that, in 8 years he brought in 29 guys and had 16 finish.

1998 2/5 played full eligibility
JC DeJuan Collins - LEFT EARLY
JC Snake Caston - LEFT EARLY
JC Willie Anderson
JC Cedric Carter
JC Chico Potts - LEFT EARLY

1999 5/11 full eligibility, 1/11 left early to go pro
JC Jamaal Wolfe - LEFT EARLY
JC Jabari Smith
TR Brian Beshara
FR Stromile Swift - LEFT EARLY, WENT PRO
FR Omar Seli-Mance - LEFT EARLY
FR DARRYL COOPER - LEFT EARLY
FR JERMAINE WILLIAMS
FR MARQUS LEDOUX - LEFT EARLY
FR BRIAN HELQUIST - LEFT EARLY
FR COLLIS TEMPLE III
FR BRAD BRIDGEWATER

2000 3/3
JC Lamont Roland
FR Torris Bright
FR Ronald Dupree

2001 1/2 full eligibility
JC Jason Wilson
FR JueMichael Young - LEFT EARLY

2002 3/3 full eligibility
JC Thomas Davis
FR Antonio Hudson
FR Xavier Whipple

2003 2/5 full eligibility. yes i'm counting lloreda as that is more of an injury thing
JC Jaime Lloreda
JC Shawnson Johnson - LEFT EARLY
JC Tony Gipson - LEFT EARLY (actually claimed he went pro, but ill count this dumbass)
FR Darrel Mitchell
FR Tim Bush - LEFT EARLY

2004 1/5 full eligibility. 1/5 bass went pro
FR Darnell Lazare
FR Regis Koundjia - LEFT EARLY
FR TACK MINOR - LEFT EARLY
FR Brandon Bass - LEFT EARLY, NBA
FR Ross Neltner - LEFT EARLY

2005 1/3 full eligibility. 2/3 went pro
FR Tyrus Thomas - LEFT EARLY NBA
FR Glen Davis - LEFT EARLY NBA
FR Garrett Temple

2006 3/6 full elgibility
JC Kentrell Gransberry - LEFT EARLY
FR Tasmin Mitchell
FR Ben Voogd - LEFT EARLY
FR Magnum Rolle - LEFFT EARLY
FR Chris Johnson
FR Alex Farrer

2007 2/2 full eligibility
TR Terry Martin
TR Dameon Mason

2008 - not gonna count this season as Brady was fired early on in SEC play. Both Thorntons stayed though
JC Quinton Thornton
JC Marcus Thornton
FR Anthony Randolph - LEFT EARLY, nba
FR Bo Spencer - LEFT EARLY UNDER TJ
FR Garrett Green - LEFT EARLY UNDER TJ
Posted by alajones
Huntsvegas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:21 pm to
16 out of 29 probably isn't bad compared to other schools. I say this having no data behind it though.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:21 pm to
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Why would Ludwig or Courtney be considering leaving right now? We have no big men signed. As it stands those two will get lots of minutes next season.

Maybe they don't look forward to being overmatched at this level. Can transfer to a smaller school get more playing time potentially and not get shite on every night.
Posted by Tigerfan7218
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2010
14251 posts
Posted on 3/14/12 at 1:41 pm to
Same situation as garrett green this past year, knew he was going to get buried in the depth chart so he went elsewhere.

Courtney is most likely IMO, at least Eddie saw the court this year and had a few bright spots (relatively speaking)
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