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re: How good are Dwayne Haskins and Tate Martell???

Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by GratefulTiger
Member since Dec 2003
1601 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:45 pm to
Haskins has an absolute cannon
Posted by Jeff Goldblum
Gardner, LA
Member since Nov 2004
1059 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:49 pm to
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, Martell is like Manziel light in the open field. Damn good wheels


If you saw his HS games, he's got above average arm and throws extremely well on the run. Fits Meyers scheme better than Burrow. Burrow was wise to transfer. One schools excess is another schools savior.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10623 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 2:57 pm to
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Having an Urban Meyer coached transfer, who got beat out, might be a much better option than any QB on the LSU roster.


It worked out pretty damn well for Auburn in 2010.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137803 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:04 pm to
Cam left because of being a thief, not because of lack of talent
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21532 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:06 pm to
Haskins is probably going to be pretty damn good. Probably the best QB from his class

I know we wanted him bad, more than Patterson and franks.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137803 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:07 pm to
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know we wanted him bad, more than Patterson and franks.

talk about some revisionist history

Maaaaaybe more than Franks, but zero chance more than patterson
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 3:08 pm
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28353 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 3:11 pm to
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From film, my take is that Burrow is a better armed Matt Mauck. I'll take it.

where exactly did you get this “film”? fricking google people go and look at clips and shite but not game film. Most people that spout shite like this haven’t a clue what film is and how it is usednin coaching and evaluating talent. Just dumb.
Don’t make shitty comments like this when you don’t have a clue about this game.
Posted by LSU82BILL
Fort Lauderdale, FL
Member since Sep 2006
10623 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 6:48 pm to
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Cam left because of being a thief, not because of lack of talent


Actually, he left because he was facing expulsion for academic dishonesty.....but the point is he transferred. He was also beat out by Tebow in 2007 - his Heisman winning season. As talented as Cam Newton was, there was no way in hell he was ever going to unseat a Gator legacy from Jacksonville with a Heisman on his mantle. If Newton hadn't left for the reason he did, he probably would have transferred for a chance to play.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
15746 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:02 pm to
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Enjoying the spoils of Urban Meyer's leftovers will be so delicious.

Well if you go by spring game performance as some do:

Haskins: 9/19 (47.3%) 120 yds 2 TDs
Martell: 5/16 (31.3%) 28yds 0 TD/1 INT
Burrow: 15/22 (68.2%) 238yds 2 TDs
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37640 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:10 pm to
Or you could go by game performance.

Haskins: 40/57 (70.2%) 595 yards 4 td/1 int
Burrow: 29/39 (74.2%) 287 yards 2 td/0 int

Haskins came in and won the Michigan game. IMO, that won him the job. A big performance in a big game.

Burrow is great and I wish him the best. High character individual who already got his degree and will do great things at LSU.

Ohio State will do just fine with Haskins. I don't see Martell seeing the field other than special package situations. He's an adequate passer but a gifted runner and is very adept at the read option.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47691 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:15 pm to
It is a shame your other thread was whacked by the board nazis. It was a legit discussion, the addition of Barrow removes some excuses if the offense is not successful.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47691 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:19 pm to
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Burrow is great and I wish him the best. High character individual who already got his degree and will do great things at LSU.



We certainly thank OSU for throwing us a bone. If Barrow can come in and have success then it can open up the future for LSU recruiting QB's. If he succeeds it will show recruits that you can come here and succeed and LSU will put a potent offense on the field. I think our lack of success and no commitment to passing has killed us in regards to signing big time Qb's.
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
37640 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:21 pm to
Burrow.

And I agree with you. I'll root for you guys (unless you play us of course).

Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye!
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47691 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:22 pm to
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Cam left because of being a thief, not because of lack of talent


Why are you people down voting this? It is the absolute truth. He left Florida for being a thief and a academic fraud. These facts are not even debatable.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
47691 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:53 pm to
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Once a Buckeye, always a Buckeye!


Hey ya"ll got us 2 out of 3, but we won the one that counted

Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:21 pm to
Yeah. Saw him on espn playing for Bishop Gorman. Solid prospect, definitely. We'll see what happens.
Posted by higgins
flowery branch, ga
Member since Dec 2009
7918 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:56 pm to
Ok. I'm sorry about his misreads when they blitzed from the middle.
He has a hard time picking up the delayed corner blitz. Has trouble when he comes out of a play fake and has to reorient his view to scan the field.
Should hold the ball longer on his RPO's. Doesn't let the defensive end commit or crash in hard enough. Is a little behind on crossing routes.
Should probably audible to "spider Y 2 banana" when faced with a stunt and blind sided pressure blitz.
"Film" is a general term. My opinion is just that. An opinion. One of a guy on a message board. Just basically a passing compliment/assessment.
Why don't you enthrall me with your football acumen there, "tiger88". Explain to me how simple opinion is a fallacy. If not, Go frick yourself with an iron stick. Then again, just go back to watching your own autobiography that you love- "the walking dead".
Old frick wad.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 8:59 pm
Posted by dailybuck
Member since May 2018
236 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:19 pm to
From Wiki on Martell: "As a senior, he was the Gatorade Football Player of the Year after leading the team to a 15–0 record, while passing for 2,362 yards and 41 touchdowns, and rushing for 1,253 yards and 21 touchdowns.[1][2] For his career, he went 45–0 as a starter and finished second in Nevada history with 7,510 passing yards and 113 touchdowns."

Was rated as 5 star by Scout and 2d best qb. So far at OSU hasn't shown himself to be a great passer although he is an exceptional runner. The one impressive thing about him is that the coaches have uniformly complimented his work ethic and how hard he worked on the Scout team to prepare the starters.

It is a tribute to him that during the Spring game he was given equal reps with Haskins and Burrow so formally he was given a chance to win the starting job. (Don't think anyone thought he had a realistic chance but I think the coaches were going out of their way to reward him for his work ethic)
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28071 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 6:27 am to
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They aren't necessarily any better than Burrow, but they obviously fit Urban's system and college in general better. Burrow has much better shot at making the NFL, but Tate is something when he's running.





Lol, you're kinda wrong here. Haskins is the pro style QB of the group. He's mobile enough to scramble for a few yards, but that's about it. Haskins fits his usual scheme the least out of all of them. Martell is mostly a runner at this point, and Burrow can do both.

Burrow didn't want to risk not winning the job, or he saw the writing on the wall, and left.

Haskins is a future NFL top draft QB, and the people that haven't realized that by now will this year. Burrow also has an NFL future which is why this was such a big get for us.
Posted by TheHat7
Member since Oct 2015
7189 posts
Posted on 5/20/18 at 7:00 am to
Watch the film. Haskins is very impressive. Elite of th Elite with arm talent. Burrow still outplayed him in the spring game
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