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re: How dumb will LSU admin look if Dawkins takes a deal and this never goes to trial?

Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Sir Fury
Member since Jan 2015
4571 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:26 pm to
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At this point, I’m already assuming that’s what’s gonna happen. And then they will release a statement saying “better to be safe than sorry” or some bull shite and the Governor will agree them and talk about how it was the right move at the time. And Will Wade will be taking a job at some major basketball school like Indiana or UCLA. And we will be back to the dark days of LSU basketball with nothing positive in th me future because what good college basketball coach and recruits would want to come to LSU after this debacle?


And the new national media storyline will be that LSU made a huge mistake by jumping the gun on this whole thing, knowing they started all of this crap.
Posted by Nation of Buga
Sandy Eggo
Member since Aug 2014
2155 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:27 pm to
They are worried about the NCAA not the trial.
Posted by nirvana
Member since Sep 2016
250 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:31 pm to
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LSU isn't worried about a trial...the can of NCAA worms is already open by what has come out. We are going to be investigated....period.


Going to be investigated? I think we already are
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:41 pm to
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if Dawkins takes a deal and this never goes to trial?
Would you mind furthering the particulars of how this potential scenario would play out and how that would affect LSU and Wade?
Posted by geauxpurple
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2014
12326 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:43 pm to
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takes a deal and this never goes to trial
This could very well happen.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20413 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:45 pm to
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They’ll look like typical LSU
Standard SOP for Joe "Get the deal done" Alleva.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19288 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:48 pm to
If not mistaken, Dawkins already made a plea in an earlier, similar trial. If he saw that the Feds had the goods on him then, there is a good chance he will see the same in this trial.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
18136 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:51 pm to
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LSU isn't worried about a trial...the can of NCAA worms is already open by what has come out. We are going to be investigated....period.
all of this has zero to do with the trial. The trial's irrelevant.

It's about the tape of Wade offering to buy players, and the inevitable NCAA investigation and penalties.

How can this board be so willfully blind as to what's occurring, and how Wade caused it all?
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
10327 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:52 pm to
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It's not possible for them to look more dumb than they already do. They have reached peak dumb.


Oh I have faith that they will eclipse their past stupidity.
Posted by xiv
Parody. #AdminsRule
Member since Feb 2004
39508 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:55 pm to
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And i'll be willing to bet the NCAA will never find a paper trail that shows any sort of payment.
If this was the case, WW should have had no problem assuring his bosses of this.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11979 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 4:57 pm to
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How can this board be so willfully blind as to what's occurring, and how Wade caused it all?



Because no one on this board, to my knowledge, has heard/seen the tape. Have you?

If you haven't seen/heard the tape then how are you so confident in your criticism?
Posted by RowdyMcflowdy
Baton Rouge Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
295 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:00 pm to
They will use the "abundance of caution" defense.

Makes me sick. Here we are at the precipice of what could be a historic run for LSU basketball, and the likely storyline will be "what could have been if the Tigers had their coach on the floor". It blows my mind that 25 schools have been implicated but we are the only ones targeted by the media, and our own administration.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20413 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:01 pm to
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LSU isn't worried about a trial...the can of NCAA worms is already open by what has come out. We are going to be investigated....period.
Not if there was no violation. Stop being a pussy.

Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:13 pm to
“Dawkins, in particular, has repeatedly vowed he will never accept a plea deal from prosecutors.”

LINK
Posted by Cajunomics
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2010
891 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:18 pm to
They already look dumb
Posted by CheniereTiger108
Member since Jul 2014
1609 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:43 pm to
ESPN

The information in just this article alone shows just how poorly LSU has handled this situation. Aside from Louisville, who obviously had far more questionable activities going on, nothing has happened to these programs or coaches.

If anybody in LSU’s admin had 2 brain cells to run together, they would’ve handled this situation more like the Texas AD did.

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Shortly after Bowen Sr. returned to the stand about 20 minutes later, it wasn't long before he'd accused a handful of colleges, including Arizona, Creighton, Oklahoma State and Texas, of offering him tens of thousands of dollars in cash and other improper benefits for his son to play basketball at those schools.

“Schools would give me money for a top player, like my son, to go to school," Bowen Sr. said.

He said Christian Dawkins, one of the three defendants in the criminal trial for felony wire fraud and conspiracy to commit wire fraud, relayed the alleged offers from assistant coaches to him. Dawkins and Bowen grew up together in Saginaw, Michigan, and they've had a long friendship.

Adidas executive James Gatto and former Adidas consultant Merl Code are also defendants in the case and, along with Dawkins, are accused of conspiring to influence players to sign with Adidas-sponsored schools Kansas, Louisville, Miami and NC State. Each of the three men has pleaded not guilty.

According to Bowen Sr., Dawkins told him that Arizona assistant coach Joe Pasternack offered $50,000; Oklahoma State assistant coach Lamont Evans offered $150,000 cash, $8,000 for a car and additional money to buy a house; Texas assistant coach Mike Morrell offered to "help me with housing"; and Creighton assistant coach Preston Murphy offered $100,000 and a "good job, a lucrative job."

Pasternack is now the head coach at UC Santa Barbara; Evans is one of three former assistant coaches who are charged in a separate federal case and is accused of accepting bribes from Dawkins and others to influence players to sign with certain agents and financial advisers; Morrell is now the head coach at UNC-Asheville; Murphy, a Saginaw native, is still employed at Creighton.

Both Texas and Creighton released statements Friday that said internal reviews showed no evidence to support what Bowen said in court.

“Our compliance office conducted a review and did not find any information that substantiates the recent testimony at the U.S. District Court in the Southern District of New York,'' Texas AD Chris Del Conte said in a statement that did mention any names. "We will monitor the information from the court proceedings and continue to cooperate fully should there be any requests from the NCAA."

Creighton said it took the allegations very seriously" but is "confident that Coach Greg McDermott and members of his staff uphold the highest standards of integrity in recruiting."

UCSB athletics spokesman Bill Mahoney said school officials "were not aware" of statements made in court regarding Pasternack prior to Thursday and that they have not been contacted by federal investigators involved in the trial.

Arizona officials have yet to respond to messages left by ESPN. Oklahoma State said it would not comment until the inquiry is complete.
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
32886 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 5:47 pm to
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all of this has zero to do with the trial. The trial's irrelevant.


The trial is extremely relevant because if Dawkins pleads we never hear another snippet of those tapes.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12896 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:28 pm to
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takes a deal and this never goes to trial
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This could very well happen.
Maybe, it is possible.

That assumes the DOJ wants a deal. They just might want a full trial for the purposes of future/other cases.

Dawkins has already been found guilty in one trial for fraud involving Kansas, NC State, and Louisville. You would think he's already sought a plea deal for this and the 3rd trial, and been turned down.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:30 pm to
If that happens and that is really likely to happen in fact, this will be my only message to LSU's administration...











Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78571 posts
Posted on 3/20/19 at 6:31 pm to
This is what I have predicted since day one. This never goes to trial. I say that not with knowledge of the accused decision-logic, but understanding LSU’s karma.
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