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re: How do the gumps get around the steroids test?

Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:21 am to
Posted by phideauxlsu
White Oak,TX
Member since Jan 2007
1379 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:21 am to
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The same way LSU does. You're fooling yourself if you think LSU doesn't use.



It must be the cheap shite then, cause our Oline gets pushed around like rag dolls.
Posted by go ta hell ole miss
Member since Jan 2007
14564 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:25 am to
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They use mostly HGH cream and have some cycling technique that mask the roids and apparently know the testing dates in advance.


Pretty much the way our baseball teams did it in the 90s.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4538 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:37 am to
Georgia has had top talent for at least a couple of decades. Always something missing. Maybe Kirby has it. Georgia has far more financial resources than LSU. Florida should also be right up there competing with LSU and Georgia to,challenge Bama as well.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54036 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:47 am to
It's pretty easy to beat, Fulton seems to be the only one that got caught
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 7:49 am to
They 1.) do not administer them 2.) tell the players when to expect them 3.) misrepresent the results
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:03 am to
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And yet not one disgruntled coach, many of whom are HC in the same league, has made a single allegation.
Not one player, parent, ex-employee or even s drug rep looking to write a book has said a single word.

All this, despite the runaway social media seen and public lives of these athleyes, yields zero accusations, evidence, nodda


Probably because other schools cheat and skirt the rules too, they just don't do it as well as Alabama and don't have as much support from the fan base and the University. You only have to look as far as LSU's own overzealous compliance department to see that.

You're not going to convince me otherwise since I have personal knowledge of at least one example of this in a recruits father who was and is hooked up with a sweet job by an Alabama booster. His kid ended up never seeing the field yet his father still to this day has that job. That's how they keep people hushed. They're in it for the long haul.

By the way, the sad thing is, the father in question is a former LSU star. They don't just have the state of Alabama on lockdown, they also got the handcuffs on people in Louisiana. They take advantage of the all the poor dumb people in this state by waving jobs, houses, cars and money in their face and they take the bait.

All the speculation about Tuas parents being hooked up are most likely true.
This post was edited on 11/15/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33896 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:08 am to
If they're on steroids and we're not then we need to get on them too.
Posted by ScaryClown
Member since Nov 2016
5847 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:13 am to
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And yet not one disgruntled coach, many of whom are HC in the same league, has made a single allegation. Not one player, parent, ex-employee or even s drug rep looking to write a book has said a single word. All this, despite the runaway social media seen and public lives of these athleyes, yields zero accusations, evidence, nodda


They also have hitmen on payroll that will make you disappear.
Posted by TwoDatBait
Northshore, LA
Member since Jul 2011
6403 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:13 am to
Every piss cup has a $1000 bill taped to the lid...
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:23 am to
All of Sabans success comes down to two things. His obsession of nuance and detail and his recruiting. The first one is all him and kudos to him for being a perfectionist. He obsesses over every detail of a player's fundamentals, technique, diet, psychological state, Etc.

The second one he needs a little more help on. He knows how to do it but a coach can't create the resources by themselves in order to execute it. A coach needs the support of boosters, the University and sometimes even the NCAA in order to do it at the level he does. No other power program from the past ever recruited this consistently at that level. That's not an accident.

It's also not an accident that he recognized the best place for him to go after Miami was Alabama.

It's next door to two states in LA and MS, that historically have produced more NFL players per capita than any other state outside of Hawaii, which is just an outlier because of the Polynesian genetics. To their east are two more states that produce a shite ton of NFL Talent just by sheer volume. Georgia and Florida.

He had already had recruiting ties to Louisiana from his coaching stint here.

Alabama is one of if not the most corrupt college football programs in college football history. They've almost received the death penalty once and has been hit for massive amounts of sanctions in the past then all of a sudden theyre squeaky clean? In the state of Alabama all they have is Alabama football so the whole state is obsessed with it and willing to do anything for that program to be successful. We've all experienced how delusional Alabama football fans are.

Alabama also happens to be one of the most corrupt States politically in the nation.

Alabama football just happens to be 45 minutes away from the conference headquarters and 40% of the employees there are Alabama graduates.

Nick Saban's BFF also happens to be the head of the NCAA.

He didn't have that same support at LSU. The booster network isn't as wide and deep and the University plays too many politics and has too many interests pulling in different directions for them to all get on board with making football priority #1.

Alabama was the perfect place for him to skirt the rules like his mentor, Bill Belicheat.
Posted by jbraua
Oklahoma City, OK
Member since Oct 2007
7717 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:25 am to
When you piss excellence, you typically pass the test.
Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:29 am to
Part of it is folks just don't care as much. Look at Clay Mathews, a poster child for steriod use. In his rookie NFL season, he gets DROY then gets busted for roid use and STILL gets DROY in a re-vote.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:30 am to
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RC anabolics that aren't tested for but have the same effect as those that are known to the NCAA would be my guess.

Will Grier got caught doing this. He wouldn't have been caught had he been at Bama and not Florida.


Don't make this a topic of conversation. If you do, you'll start seeing them throw their fourth string long snapper under the bus to make it look right. Kind of like they do with the penalty situation. Once everybody started pulling up the stats, early in Nick Saban's career at Alabama, showing the discrepancy in penalties, all of a sudden the official started throwing flags against them after the game was already won to try to even the stat line, that way all the gumps can start parroting the company line, "MUH BAMA opponents penalties per game!"
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
6110 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:30 am to
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It's pretty easy to beat, Fulton seems to be the only one that got caught


Fulton did not fail a PEDs test. Ever.
Posted by AshLSU
Member since Nov 2015
12868 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:45 am to
Quit settling and go for the best. Coaches,

When is Georgia going to do this?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19776 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:49 am to
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Fulton did not fail a PEDs test. Ever.
true, but he THOUGHT it was a PED test and that's why he tried to submit a different sample. Connecting the dots ain't hard on this one.
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:51 am to
Fan11 is right! Inbreeding!!!
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25845 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 8:53 am to
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true, but he THOUGHT it was a PED test and that's why he tried to submit a different sample. Connecting the dots ain't hard on this one.


No, he thought it was a marijuana test. It WAS a PED test.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
20654 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:00 am to
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I know this is a tin foil hat thing to most peoplle, but watching their physicality, strength, and speed difference over the years, i believe it.


Their linemen all look alike.
Every position every year.
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2406 posts
Posted on 11/15/18 at 9:03 am to
I was at Mobile Mardi Gras once (a huge mistake) and took a picture of a big luxury car with the license plate "HGHTIDE". I have the picture, but am not going through the trouble of uploading to a server just to post it on here. Anyway, I assume it was Alabama's team doctor.
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