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re: Houston Chronicle: Texas and Oklahoma reach out to SEC about joining conference
Posted on 7/22/21 at 12:59 pm to doubleb
Posted on 7/22/21 at 12:59 pm to doubleb
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How will LSU fans benefit? Will we see better games? Will the homer schedule improve? How does LSU making more money trickle down to the fans?
LSU has a massive following in the state of Texas. Our fans mingle with UT fans a lot. Yes road and home games against UT and OU would be great. More money means a better product. You’d rather see us play ULM and rice instead of blue bloods? Don’t be so scared if change. It opens the state up more for us to recruit as well. I see no good arguments to why not AS LONG as we still get our traditional SEC games. (Bama, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, State).
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Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:05 pm to turnpiketiger
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People can’t keep pointing to the past as their reason to why this won’t work.
That's not my point. We gave them their shot, its now a matter of principal. OU/TX have everything to gain here because of SEC revenue sharing. In the past, one of TX's big beefs for not coming was that the SEC is inferior academically. So go join whatever league Rice and/or Suwannee are in!
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:08 pm to CouldCareLess
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That's not my point. We gave them their shot, its now a matter of principal. OU/TX have everything to gain here because of SEC revenue sharing. In the past, one of TX's big beefs for not coming was that the SEC is inferior academically. So go join whatever league Rice and/or Suwannee are in!
That’s a nearsighted take. Just because the deal didn’t work in the past doesn’t mean it won’t work now. Take the emotion out of it, woman.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:13 pm to turnpiketiger
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LSU has a massive following in the state of Texas. Our fans mingle with UT fans a lot. Yes road and home games against UT and OU would be great. More money means a better product. You’d rather see us play ULM and rice instead of blue bloods? Don’t be so scared if change. It opens the state up more for us to recruit as well. I see no good arguments to why not AS LONG as we still get our traditional SEC games. (Bama, Auburn, Florida, Ole Miss, State).
Where are you seeing that we would keep all of our traditional games and add Okla or Texas. I’m seeing the opposite.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:26 pm to doubleb
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Where are you seeing that we would keep all of our traditional games and add Okla or Texas. I’m seeing the opposite.
In the proposed pod schedule, LSU would maintain its annual rivalries with Ole Miss, Miss St, and Texas A&M, while its games against Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida would be played every other year rather than annually. In addition, LSU would get to play every other SEC Team on a semi-annual basis as well.
So, LSU would lose half of its Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida games, but get more frequent games against Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt.
If they maintained the division format, eliminated cross division rivalries, and added a 9th game, LSU would likely trade annual games with Florida, Alabama, and Auburn for annual games with Mizzou, Texas, and Oklahoma. Games against East division opponents would be roughly once every 4 years.
This post was edited on 7/22/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:29 pm to rjacksonmroctober
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Forget about Clemson and Ohio State! What other league would be able to even try and compare themselves to the SEC?
Everything is moving to super conferences. You dont think if OU and Tex move to the SEC, that a conference like the big 10 wouldnt absorb other teams like Clemson, Notre Dame, Florida St? We are probably headed for either a 4 or 3 super conferences. Hell, the Pac 12 along with the Big 12 will no longer be relevent.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:32 pm to poochie
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Take the emotion out of it, woman.
What emotion? If anything, I'm just being a hard arse as they both had their golden opportunity. Those don't come along very often but now that it improves their financial status, they want us to forget the past. Sorry
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:34 pm to JRC73
I’m wondering if the Pac 12 even wants to be relevant at this point. Texas to the Pac was basically their only real play available to them. If UT and OU end up in the SEC, what 4 teams could the Pac 12 even grab that would help them remain relevant?
I don’t think BYU, Kansas, Kansas St, Baylor, Texas Tech, Boise St, etc would cut it.
I don’t think BYU, Kansas, Kansas St, Baylor, Texas Tech, Boise St, etc would cut it.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 1:39 pm to kingbob
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I don’t think BYU, Kansas, Kansas St, Baylor, Texas Tech, Boise St, etc would cut it.
Which is why we should make an effort to take Texas and ou. Or Clemson/fsu/Miami. Or something crazy like that. Instead of hoping for Texas tech or kstate.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:12 pm to deuce985
This will boil down to one thing,,,Money
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:30 pm to doubleb
The 4 team pod model puts every SEC team hosting all other members in a 4 year period. We’d play A&M and The Ms schools every single season in that model. We’d see more east teams. Wouldn’t get Alabama every single year but we’d still see them often.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:38 pm to memphis tiger
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They strong armed the Big12 to the point it almost collapsed (will collapse if they and OU leave) and they are arrogant enough that they will come into the SEC and expect everyone to bow down to them.
Precisely
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:47 pm to JRC73
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We are probably headed for either a 4 or 3 super conferences. Hell, the Pac 12 along with the Big 12 will no longer be relevent.
I agree. I see Big 12 going away if TX and OU move out.
SEC vs. ACC vs. Big Ten vs. Pac 12.
BUT I think the pod idea is dumb. Move TX and OU into SEC West and move Bama and AU to the East.
LSU v Bama in SEC CG would must see TV. (hopefully..lol)
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:57 pm to kingbob
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In the proposed pod schedule, LSU would maintain its annual rivalries with Ole Miss, Miss St, and Texas A&M, while its games against Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida would be played every other year rather than annually. In addition, LSU would get to play every other SEC Team on a semi-annual basis as well.
So, LSU would lose half of its Arkansas, Alabama, Auburn, and Florida games, but get more frequent games against Mizzou, Texas, Oklahoma, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, South Carolina, and Vanderbilt.
If they maintained the division format, eliminated cross division rivalries, and added a 9th game, LSU would likely trade annual games with Florida, Alabama, and Auburn for annual games with Mizzou, Texas, and Oklahoma. Games against East division opponents would be roughly once every 4 years.
I do not think either scenario is good for LSU fans. Do you?
Posted on 7/22/21 at 2:59 pm to turnpiketiger
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ference by turnpiketiger
The 4 team pod model puts every SEC team hosting all other members in a 4 year period. We’d play A&M and The Ms schools every single season in that model. We’d see more east teams. Wouldn’t get Alabama every single year but we’d still see them often.
Once every four years in TS
Posted on 7/22/21 at 3:21 pm to doubleb
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Once every four years in TS
As opposed to twice. I think we’ll be ok.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:03 pm to doubleb
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I do not think either scenario is good for LSU fans. Do you?
I think all scenarios for scheduling became suboptimal after expanding from 12 conference teams playing 8 games. Maintaining the division setup seems like the worst option to me. LSU would basically never play the East teams. The pod situation seems like an okay compromise, but is still kinda meh.
I can acknowledge, however, that the status quo does not work at all.
When it comes to conference realignment, there is no perfect scenario where all rivalries and traditions are maintained, every conference is geographically and competitively balanced, and all teams have a roughly equal shot at competing for a championship.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:44 pm to doubleb
More incentive for players to stay all 4 years if they want to face every sec team during their 4 years on a team.
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:48 pm to turnpiketiger
I’d rather take OU and FSU. Screw UT
Posted on 7/22/21 at 4:58 pm to poochie
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Once every four years in TS
As opposed to twice. I think we’ll be ok.
I’m spoiled, I prefer to see a Bama, Florida or Auburn every year in TS. Those are the games I want to see the most. But that’s me.
You may want to see Oklahoma or Texas more than top SEC opponents. I can see that side of things, but the novelty will wear off and then it won’t be a big deal.
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