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re: Honest Question...Is Brian Polian the worst coordinator of any unit in the country?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:10 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:10 am to Topwater Trout
Did you ever think this might be part of preparation and coaching in practice? So I guess you think kick coverage also isn't part of preparation and coaching in practice too huh? Or how the holder is holding the ball. Or how the kicker is kicking the ball. Why did these problems not exist with the previous coach?
Polian had problems at Notre Dame too which further reinforces he's not a good coach. So whatever preparation/coaching he's doing ain't working. Maybe he's too busy handling BK's clipboard for him.
Polian had problems at Notre Dame too which further reinforces he's not a good coach. So whatever preparation/coaching he's doing ain't working. Maybe he's too busy handling BK's clipboard for him.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:13 am
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Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:13 am to deuce985
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Did you ever think this might be part of preparation and coaching in practice?
as for the blocked kicks? hell no players aren't taught to block from outside to inside. How is a muffed punt preparation? Our kicker can kick it out of the endzone...pretty sure thats what they want him to do. Snap, place and kicks have been good...that is preparation!
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:14 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Obviously hired because of his name, the special teams performance has not only been atrocious, it has been down right embarrassing! I don't give a shite who his daddy is, he needs to be replaced immediately before we lose another game because of his units performance. 
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:17 am to Topwater Trout
You're not helping your argument at all dude. That's part of coaching especially the blocking. They pulled a guy and slapped a true freshman in who had no idea what he was doing.
Serious question have you ever played football in your life? I don't know what they're doing in practice I'm not there. Whatever they're doing, it's clearly not working. Maybe they're not pushing enough reps among the STs. Maybe the returners are not fielding enough punts. Maybe Polian has his head up his arse dealing with admin duties too much rather than actually coaching. Who the hell knows. The point is, his unit is terrible and he's the coach. It's not something that's inconsistent, it's consistent because his ND units struggled too. Add in we had very good STs past few years until they changed coaches HMMM I wonder what it could be.
Serious question have you ever played football in your life? I don't know what they're doing in practice I'm not there. Whatever they're doing, it's clearly not working. Maybe they're not pushing enough reps among the STs. Maybe the returners are not fielding enough punts. Maybe Polian has his head up his arse dealing with admin duties too much rather than actually coaching. Who the hell knows. The point is, his unit is terrible and he's the coach. It's not something that's inconsistent, it's consistent because his ND units struggled too. Add in we had very good STs past few years until they changed coaches HMMM I wonder what it could be.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:21 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:23 am to Bert Macklin FBI
With only a quick look to compare, ND's ST's look like top 30 from 18'-20' and #41 last year.
Regardless, somebody has to start doing something better.
Regardless, somebody has to start doing something better.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:24 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:27 am to Topwater Trout
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so a player muffing 2 punts...kicker kicking it out of bounds are coaching? Also it was pretty clear the 2 blocked kicks were not coaching mistakes but players choosing to block the outside guy instead of the inside guy...i seriously doubt he teaches something no other coach teaches.
Results matter. Special teams lost us the fsu game already. Straight up lost us the game. This many problems means it’s the coaches problem. It’s his responsibility. I’ve never seen so many special teams mistakes. Even IF Polian is a decent coach underneath everything, If he can’t stop all these game altering mistakes, he will lose his job. Tgat has nothing to do with my opinion. That is a fact. What kind of grade do you think he deserves as special teams coach right now? It’s on him
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:28 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Well, at least he wasn't sitting in a chair on the sideline by himself contemplating life like Georgia Tech's DC was Saturday. I'll give him that.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Again, you don’t know you have a guy that can catch punts till you see him in a real game.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:30 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Honest answer - No
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:31 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Special teams look atrocious top to bottom.
We really need the BR media to start pushing Brian Kelly on this. We will lose more games solely due to special teams and have already lost one.
With just a DECENT performance against MSU, I think we win by 10 more points. It was so, so, so fricking bad.
We really need the BR media to start pushing Brian Kelly on this. We will lose more games solely due to special teams and have already lost one.
With just a DECENT performance against MSU, I think we win by 10 more points. It was so, so, so fricking bad.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:31 am to Bert Macklin FBI
give the man a little time. we've had to replace every unit on special teams.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:33 am to Bert Macklin FBI
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Well we are 125th in special teams
So not even the worst special teams unit in FBS?
Where did you get that data? On the NCAA site I didn't find an all encompassing special teams ranking
https://www.ncaa.com/stats/football/fbs/current/team/462/p3
Some of what I did find
Blocked Kicks Allowed - 122 (tied - 2 blocked kicks)
Definitely the worst in the SEC here, not the worst in the NCAA. 4 teams have allowed 3 blocked kicks already.
Blocked Kicks - tied for 18th with 1 blocked kick
Kickoff return defense - 107
Not even the worst in the SEC Arky is 123
Kickoff return - 105th
Better than Auburn at 124th
Punt Return Defense - 109th
Arkansas - 124
Georgia - 125
Missouri - 131(dead last)
Punt Return - 105th
A&M- 111
Florida- 123
Blocked Punts Allowed-tied for first with 0
Blocked Punts-tied for 11 with 1 blocked punt
Net Punting - 82nd
LSU is not good on special teams (special teams sucks is actually what came to mind) but to say Polian is the worst coordinator of any coordinate out the is hyperbole.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:35 am to Topwater Trout
quote:If special teams mistakes are only the player's fault then the coach has the wrong player in the game (coach's fault). The variety and volume of LSU's special teams mistakes suggests that coaching is at least part of the problem, and backs up the point OP is trying to make.
tell how a player missing an assignment, muffing a kick, dropping passes, fumbling, etc is coaching and not on the player?
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:36 am to mdomingue
But we're near the bottom in almost every single category.
List out every team's rank in every special teams category then average them.
We look VERY poorly coached out there. It is missed assignments, poor scheme, and dumb decisions that are ST 101. That is 99% coaching. I'm not even talking about the muffed punts.
List out every team's rank in every special teams category then average them.
We look VERY poorly coached out there. It is missed assignments, poor scheme, and dumb decisions that are ST 101. That is 99% coaching. I'm not even talking about the muffed punts.
This post was edited on 9/19/22 at 11:37 am
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:37 am to Not Cooper
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It isn’t hyperbole
What?
quote:
Brian Polian the worst coordinator of any unit in the country
That is textbook hyperbole. And yes, the special teams suck, but his statement is still hyperbole. Both can be true.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:37 am to goatmilker
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:38 am to CatfishJohn
Again, special teams is bad. That doesn't make the OPs statement in the tile any less hyperbole.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:43 am to Bert Macklin FBI
Maybe some of the guys on special teams just aren’t that smart? Fielding a punt on the 3 or jumping on one presumably to protect it is some shite they should have leaned from their peewee coach.
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:48 am to Bert Macklin FBI
They fixed the PAT/FG blocking but why wait to lose one of your 12 games to remedy a fundamental part of the kick game. I'm not sure what the problem is on the kick/punt coverage units, but I did notice the first guys to arrive aren't breaking down. Yet another fundamental that's being taught at 80% of the high schools in Louisiana. The guy running over and jumping on the football was probably the most egregious of all of the special teams gaffs I've seen. How many times, for those of you who played, do you remember hearing "Peter! Peter! Peter!" when there was a shanked punt or a ball bounding down the field. I'm not sure why they yelled that but I sure do remember it!
Polian isn't teaching!
Polian isn't teaching!
Posted on 9/19/22 at 11:53 am to Not Cooper
quote:That means there are several ST coordinators worse than he is.
It isn’t hyperbole. Our special teams is ranked #125 in the country.
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