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re: Hill decision stirs up debate, Armchair judges replay Jackson’s call
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:55 am to Pauldean
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:55 am to Pauldean
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The comment "sounds like your average guy", shows you thier mindset. Hopefully they are just young and will change thier views as they mature.
The kid was offered a bj, as a guy you're gonna accept. Then a white guy for all we know was blurting out the "n" word or something, which gets offensive and results in fights. It's life. This isn't some third world medieval type shite. It's just a guy being a guy.
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Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:57 am to 337Cajun
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Honestly, he received a bj from a girl who was pretty much willing to give him one and punch a guy from a reason we couldn't gain evidence as to why, could've been racial words slung at him. He didn't do drugs, didn't rape anyone and surely didn't murder nobody. Sounds like your average guy. Cut the kid some slack.
Read the bill of information.
A average guy isn't on probation for two separate criminal incidents.
And it doesn't matter what the guy called him...if he actually called him anything at all. You can't just punch somebody unless it was in self-defense which this wasn't. And you certainly can't sucker punch somebody when they have their back turned to you.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 10:58 am to LSUnowhas2
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And you certainly can't sucker punch somebody when they have their back turned to you.
Good thing he didn't do that.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:00 am to Pauldean
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From Judge Jackson:
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“I resent the implication that has been created by the media that this case has been handled any differently from any other case,” Jackson said in a telephone interview Friday, responding to questions about Monday’s hearing. “The only thing that has been different about this case is the amount of media attention that it’s been given.
Good for her.
Many of us that actually know a thing or two about the legal system tried explaining last week how rare it is for anyone to go to jail under the circumstances that Hill was facing.
The idea that this was an "LSU judge" taking care of an LSU player is just so uninformed, or more likely intentionally dishonest, from writers that are supposedly paid to know what they are writing about is unsettling.
These ideas get spread around the country to casual readers that then perpetuate the lies and misinformation as fact.
It's a truly scary and abused flaw in our 24 hour media culture.
I'm glad that the judge spoke up for herself, although I'm 100% certain her retort will not receive even a fraction of the coverage that the media attack on her and her courtroom did.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:05 am to ProjectP2294
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Good thing he didn't do that.
So he didn't come up from behind the guy and then sucker punch him? Because that is certainly what it looks like from the video.
Jeremy Hill fight video
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:07 am to DrD
Holy shite you are a special breed of stupid. Words. Cannot. Explain.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:08 am to LSUnowhas2
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So he didn't come up from behind the guy and then sucker punch him? Because that is certainly what it looks like from the video.
You said he did this:
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punch somebody when they have their back turned to you.
He didn't do that.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:09 am to Pauldean
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You can't just punch somebody unless it was in self-defense which this wasn't
So you're telling me if someone called you racial names, maybe talked about you mom or gf you wouldn't want to kick his arse? If so you have some tiny marbles.
And please don't highlight "didn't rape anybody" acting like he did rape someone. If receiving a bj from a girl from his own high school is rape, they should've booked me a long time ago cat.
This post was edited on 8/12/13 at 11:11 am
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:10 am to LSUnowhas2
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A average guy isn't on probation for two separate criminal incidents.
Without actually looking up statistics, I will say with a good bit of confidence that its not far off the mark for a 20 year old black man.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:14 am to LSUnowhas2
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I doubt you shoved your dick down the throat of a girl that was not a willing participant.
Hill didn't do that.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:15 am to LSUnowhas2
quote:Say what?
I doubt you shoved your dick down the throat of a girl that was not a willing participant
quote:Why don't you provide us with a link to that.
read the bill of information.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:17 am to LSUnowhas2
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The difference is that I doubt you shoved your dick down the throat of a girl that was not a willing participant
You know there is a video that proves otherwise, right?
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Again, read the bill of information.
Bill of information is only an accusation, not what actually happened.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:23 am to ProjectP2294
ProjectP2294, you really like to split hairs.
Both of my statements are fundamentally the same.
Both of my statements are fundamentally the same.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:26 am to RealityTiger
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Why don't you provide us with a link to that
Why don't you go down to the courthouse and pull this information for yourself? I have already read it. Do your own research.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:26 am to Pauldean
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That doesn't matter. No amount of name-calling gives you carte blanche to punch someone. You can be mad all you want. Call the guy some names back. Try and get him to punch you and then beat the hell out of him. At least then you have the argument of self-defense. That is not what happened here. Not even close.
Again you have tiny marbles, or have never been in a fight and if you have you apparently got the shite kicked out of you using this tactic.
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The difference is that I doubt you shoved your dick down the throat of a girl that was not a willing participant. Again, read the bill of information.
This was never shown or quoted by anybody with any type of sufficient evidence. It's still at this point just a bj
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:27 am to LSUnowhas2
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ProjectP2294, you really like to split hairs.
I just like people to be accurate when they say what crimes someone committed. You seem to have trouble doing that because you keep accusing Hill of things he did not do.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:28 am to EarthwormJim
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Bill of information is only an accusation, not what actually happened.
A bill of information sets out the information that you have that constitutes your probable cause to charge a defendant with a crime. It also sets out what you hope to be able to prove should the matter progress to trial.
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:28 am to LSUnowhas2
Not when both are covered by Louisiana laws.
He was charged with one crime then plead to another when the facts of the case came to light. You honestly think any lawyer would allow a "rapist" to plea down and avoid jail time?
He was charged with one crime then plead to another when the facts of the case came to light. You honestly think any lawyer would allow a "rapist" to plea down and avoid jail time?
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:29 am to LSUnowhas2
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I have already read it. Do your own research.
then you obviously have a reading comprehension problem
Posted on 8/12/13 at 11:30 am to LSUnowhas2
quote:Uh, because you're the one making the statement. It's kind of up to you to back it up.
Why don't you go down to the courthouse and pull this information for yourself?
quote:Oh ok, well if you say so...
I have already read it
quote:That's not how it works. If I make the statement, "LSUnowhas2 downloads child porn" - it's kind of up to me to prove it. I wouldn't come back with "do your own research" if somebody asks me to prove it.
Do your own research.
Or, I could if I was talking out of my arse like you are.
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