- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: Hate feeling like I have to root against LSU to avoid Frank as HC
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to TooncesLeftNut
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to TooncesLeftNut
quote:
Why should him winning 2 huge games on the road (that Kelly throughout his career proved he couldn’t win, yet was still hired) in the SEC and getting LSU into playoff contention not matter?
Because history has shown that teams that fire a coach in the middle of a season often times play hard and win games they shouldn't for their interim coach. However, hiring that interim coach to be the full-time head coach the following season almost never works out. I'd be happier than a pig in shite if we won the rest of the games on our schedule, but I also understand that Frank Wilson should not be in consideration for the full-time position next year. That would be a disaster.
1
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:46 am to Draconian Sanctions
I’ll agree there, I’m hoping Sheppard gets a look. He’d need to keep that core of CR Frank and Austin Thomas, but out of the “cheap” options he’s at the top of my list.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:47 am to ibleedpurpleandgold.
quote:I think we can all agree this is the most braindead take in the thread! Thank you for your contribution that definitely isn't rooted in racism.
He could lose all of the rest of the games and there would be an excuse to hire him by our new AD
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:47 am to Draconian Sanctions
Delete your account
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:48 am to Harry Caray
quote:
No, we shouldn't hire Wilson full-time just for winning out the season (or 3-1), but he'd certainly deserve a real look.
If you aren't hiring him for winning out the season or going 3-1 the rest of the way then what would you be hiring him for? For his prior success as a head coach? For his prior success as a coordinator? That's the point. His resume is clearly underwhelming to be considered for the head coaching job at LSU.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:50 am to UpToPar
quote:We're talking in circles now, because yes he should not be considered at the moment period. But if he were to somehow get this team to the CFP, that doesn't change your opinion that he should at least deserve a look?
If you aren't hiring him for winning out the season or going 3-1 the rest of the way then what would you be hiring him for?
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:51 am to UpToPar
Your assumption based on his record at other schools is shallow, no other way to put it. Career record should 100% matter in a coaching search, but to eliminate a coach who would have showed on the field the ability to take an LSU team that has 3 embarrassing losses and beat multiple top 10 teams would be malpractice.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:51 am to Sleepy_Tiger
quote:
Do you honestly think Boosters would continue to fund NIL with LSU hiring a coach with a losing record? Especially after everything with O
Everything with O? He was 40-9 with a national championship through his first four years. Then the draft decimated the team, Covid came along, pundits on ESPN (well, just Ryan Clark) openly sabotaged LSU recruiting and accused him of racism. Which is slanderous/libelous because throughout his career he was recognized as one of the top recruiters in the country with the WAY overwhelming majority of those recruits being black.
If Frank can bring us a national championship in his fourth year, like O, then it will be a successful hire.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:53 am to Draconian Sanctions
Frank would be better than whoever we actually choose. This hire will likely go sideways. Hiring Frank for 4 million a year for 3 years will be really cheap. You can support him with 2.5 million coordinators and a good staff and NIL. If he can keep the program at 8-5 without a losing season, we can tide out the Kelly buyout years and come out financially stronger.
Go hire a CUSA , Mac, Sun Belt type coach for 9 million year and 7 years and you will have a huge buyout to pay in 3 years. Much better the hire Frank.
Go hire a CUSA , Mac, Sun Belt type coach for 9 million year and 7 years and you will have a huge buyout to pay in 3 years. Much better the hire Frank.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:56 am to mike4lsu
i hope you’re joking
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:56 am to Harry Caray
quote:
But if he were to somehow get this team to the CFP
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:57 am to TooncesLeftNut
quote:
Career record should 100% matter in a coaching search
Agreed. You can stop right there.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 9:57 am to UpToPar
Yeah yeah it's a pipe dream that'll likely die after this weekend but let us dream
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:02 am to TooncesLeftNut
quote:
but to eliminate a coach who would have showed on the field the ability to take an LSU team that has 3 embarrassing losses and beat multiple top 10 teams would be malpractice.
no it wouldn’t, lots of teams get an interim bounce and there is plenty of talent on the roster to pop a big win or two down the stretch.
that is totally unrelated to someone’s ability to manage the day to day of the program in the long term.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:03 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:07 am to Draconian Sanctions
It’s directly related to the ability of the interim coach to manage the day to day of the program. Are you reading what you type? While keeping a recruiting class together and keeping your own guys out of the portal during the coaching search, while dealing with the governor sticking his nose into a football coaching search, he does his job and coaches the program to a 9-3 record? Pretty sure he can handle it when he has his staff in place.
This post was edited on 11/5/25 at 10:09 am
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:08 am to TooncesLeftNut
quote:
It’s directly related to the ability of the interim coach to manage the day to day of the program
finishing out the season and managing/developing the program in the long term are two totally different things.
this should be obvious
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:10 am to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
hope you’re joking
No I am not.
1. NSD is 3rd December. Which means if you do not have a coach before thanksgiving the recruiting class will fall apart. The season would be barely over on 3rd December, with championship games still going on and playoff births being settled in. You cannot expect any good coach to bolt before the regular season ends.
2. The political intervention in the coaching search should scare any coach with a good judgement to stay away from LSU.
3. LSU's expectations are way too high. We are not allowed playoff program at the moment. Haven't been since Ed Orgeron put the program on a downward spiral in 2020.
4. Considering the extra curricular in this hire, this would be a career wrecker for a young coach.
Hallman, Archer, DiNardo will testify. Miles got fired at Kansas for what he supposedly did at LSU, even though none of it was proven. All the dirty laundry on Kelly has damaged the reputation of a hall of fame career coach and it will hard for him to get the stench of his back. A guy like Kelly would like to go away a winner. Only the GOAT has survived LSU.
5. LSU's NIL collective, though nothing to scoff about, is just middle of the SEC pack. It will also be dented by Kelly's buyout.
6. LSU recruiting advantage is gone as geography no longer matters in recruiting.
So yes Wilson is not a bad choice.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:12 am to TooncesLeftNut
quote:
If he takes the same roster that Kelly coached into getting embarrassed by VANDY and skull drug at home then goes on the road and beats a top 10 bama team and a top 10 OU team on the road. He objectively deserves a shot.
What we saw with Orgeron is that taking over a team mid-season, improving the culture and winning some games demonstrates only a small number of the skills that a head coach needs to actually build and run a program. So I don’t agree that a positive outcome the rest of the season qualifies him to be permanent head coach, not after his two abject failures in little leagues.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:13 am to Draconian Sanctions
Right, but can the guy COACH? Can he get his staff and put together a gameplan to WIN? Kelly had multiple top 5 classes, got all these great assistant coaches, program was heading up right? Nope. Dude can’t COACH. If Frank can coach this team to 9-3, he deserves a look.
Posted on 11/5/25 at 10:14 am to mike4lsu
quote:
Which means if you do not have a coach before thanksgiving the recruiting class will fall apart.
not sure this is true with NIL
quote:
The political intervention in the coaching search should scare any coach with a good judgement to stay away from LSU.
this wasn’t good of course but it won’t scare every qualified candidate away
quote:
LSU's expectations are way too high.
this mentality is a great way to stay mediocre
quote:
5. LSU's NIL collective, though nothing to scoff about, is just middle of the SEC pack. It will also be dented by Kelly's buyout.
6. LSU recruiting advantage is gone as geography no longer matters in recruiting.
yeah neither of these things are true
quote:
yes Wilson is not a bad choice.
he’s an awful choice
if you swing and miss just hire Sheppard. he’s doing well at a higher level not a failure at a lower level
Page 5 of 8
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News