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re: Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.

Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:35 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 6:35 pm to
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he was not s spread the field guy and let’s throw it.

No, he wasn't. He was a spread the field guy and let's run it. LSU has had success running the ball from spread formations before. I was encouraged seeing him do it right off. The problem is that if you don't try to get the ball to the WRs and stretch the field on occasion, the safeties will just key on the run. I expected to see a bit more passing in year 2 to keep defenses honest and keep the safeties guessing.

Maybe he would've, maybe he wouldn't've. It was an interesting experiment - and scored 10 points against Alabama. I'm encouraged with Brady, though.

And as far as O goes, until he totally shows his arse, he's our guy, and I support him.
Posted by ShermanTxTiger
Broussard, La
Member since Oct 2007
11118 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:03 pm to
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Mother of god, I hope you’re not an adult


God is typically capitalized. I learned that in grade school.

I am guessing you are some sort of Zero apologist who thinks we are now headed in the right direction? That is laughable.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13277 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:06 pm to
I wish you hadn't said that. We have over three months to to kill. Its going to be a repeat of last off season.
Maybe Hannigrif is trying to stir up something to talk about until kickoff.
Posted by uscpuke
Member since Jan 2004
5675 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:07 pm to
I for one am happy that our career D-Line coach knows so much about offense that he can demand change with impunity.
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:10 pm to
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Hannigrif says Orgeron made Canada makes changes by game 3.Posted on 5/28/19 at 1:07 pm


The question everyone should have is this. What reason does Hannigriff have for suddenly releasing this news, he sure sat on it for a loooong time?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19055 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:14 pm to
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I don’t remember Canada running Etling much vs BYU


Correct. He ran 2X for 10 yds.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19055 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:15 pm to
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. . . why people like Mack Brown and Gene Chizick came to Canada’s defense.


What is this about?
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19055 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:17 pm to
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Canada had a garbage gimmick scheme that wouldn't work in the SEC and I'm glad he's gone. The only reason people will defend him is because if a deep hatred of Ed.


It worked pretty good against Clemson - a team that's done well against the SEC of recent.

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98229 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:18 pm to
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The question everyone should have is this. What reason does Hannigriff have for suddenly releasing this news, he sure sat on it for a loooong time?

That's my fault TTT. They were discussing whether or not people should be getting excited about the offense this season or taking the wait and see approach. He used this as an example of why he wants to see it on the field first. I should have put that in the OP. Another reason why creating threads really isn't my thing.

I hoped to get some honest answers here because I don't ever remember hearing anything that specific back in 2017.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
20978 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:20 pm to
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Charles Hannigrif just said on Sports Today in Baton Rouge that there was off-season hype around Matt Canada's offense and that by game 3 Orgeron told him no more 4 wide sets, stop running the quarterback and no more up tempo. Anyone have any insight on this? That's a really serious allegation and if untrue I have a pretty big issue with a BR host radio saying something like that (again if it's not true).



Rearview mirrow dude. I was happy to see Canada go myself. That gimmick offense might have gotten an upset win every now and then but it was not going to carry water in the SEC.

quote:

stop running the quarterback and no more up tempo.


Somewhere in the middle of the season Etling suffered a deviated septum (Auburn maybe) and we know he had offseason back surgery.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
19055 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:25 pm to
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Rearview mirrow dude. I was happy to see Canada go myself. That gimmick offense might have gotten an upset win every now and then but it was not going to carry water in the SEC.


This will always, ALWAYS, summon the question: why then was he hired by O in the first place?

And it's not just rear view history. Until O severs the link by putting a functioning offense on the field that can beat Bama and win championships, it's part of the story.

Really, that's all it takes to banish Canada to the past.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:28 pm to
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The only reason people will defend him is because if a deep hatred of Ed


I think there's a misunderstanding of what's happening here.

No one is defending Canada. He's incidental in this discussion. They're defending the position that he once held. You're a defensive line coach, you hire a offensive coordinator and let him do his job because comparatively, you know jack shite about his job.

If this were just limited to Canada then that would be one thing. But the coach here has a documented (and admitted) history of micromanaging his offensive coordinators. The man has not had one half decent offense in his entire head coaching career. Just bad luck I guess, poor guy.
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 7:29 pm
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:30 pm to
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Doesn't check out.
I get twice the occurrence of sacks after tMeddle.

First 3 games
1.3 sacks/ game

last 10 games
2.6 sacks/ game


Using stats from Chattanooga and BYU and comparing them against our SEC schedule is a not going to help your case.

If we are looking at the the game film when Canada was allowed to free reign against good competition, you will see Etling was running for his life most of the State game. Even though there are only 2 sacks, he had close to half his incompletions were due to being chased out of the pocket.

It doesn't matter though. 2017 LSU is in the past. Canada is a good offensive mind, but wasn't the right fit for LSU.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4478 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:39 pm to
Canada was an awful hire. We had a very thin defense. Our Oline was bad and our QBs was limited to,be nice. If in fact Canada ran to,Alleva after that discussion he should have been fired that week. If Alleva was a good athletic director he would not,have taken the meeting.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4478 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:40 pm to
Even if true. Why bring this out now. Our defense was thin as can be. And our Oline was poor. qB was not a runner and we had no QB depth.
Posted by 6R12
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2005
10519 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:41 pm to
This is so many frustrating situations ago......
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:54 pm to
The reason Burrow didn't run the ball after a certain point last season was because Brennan suffered a wrist injury and if Burrow was hurt LSU would've been without a scholarship QB to take the field.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
13612 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 7:58 pm to
We complained about Miles’ slow tempo offense so we fired him for Miles’ defensive line coach who hired and fired an up tempo coach called Canada in favor of Miles’s tight end coach
This post was edited on 5/28/19 at 8:05 pm
Posted by TrueTigerTale
Zachary, La.
Member since Sep 2011
19318 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:04 pm to
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The reason Burrow didn't run the ball after a certain point last season was because Brennan suffered a wrist injury and if Burrow was hurt LSU would've been without a scholarship QB to take the field.


The O-haters will say, "that's no excuse."
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40229 posts
Posted on 5/28/19 at 8:08 pm to
Yes
I agree with all you posted there.
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