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re: Guilbeau says LSU assistants wanted to pass more at Bama
Posted on 7/18/16 at 10:33 am to Restomod
Posted on 7/18/16 at 10:33 am to Restomod
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you don't like the plays called be mad at me not Cam Cameron".
He actually didn't say that.
It was more like, don't scream at Arandas, scream at me, don't scream at peveto, scream at me, don't scream at cam Cameron, scream at me. He's the head coach, everything goes through him. Just like at every other school.
Well maybe not at Ole Miss.
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Posted on 7/18/16 at 10:37 am to tiggerthetooth
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Oh and lets make sure all the pro-Miles folks on here see this so they don't give him ANOTHER pass, and they finally understand changing the offensive coordinator won't change Les Miles.
6/19
That's only attempted passes, not called.
Sure let's keep throwing. It sure as frick worked against Arkansas.
LSU attempted 82 passes in the 3 losses. Again that's not actual called pass plays that either Harris checked out of, or was sacked.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 10:38 am
Posted on 7/18/16 at 10:50 am to dgnx6
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LSU attempted 82 passes in the 3 losses. Again that's not actual called pass plays that either Harris checked out of, or was sacked.
That is an average of 27 passes a game for an offense really designed to make about 20-22 a year based on the scheme and personnel.
In a way you can place the losses on the offensive line. When you ask a primarily run oriented team to go into full passing mode you run into problems especially on blocking scheme.
That being said, I can understand the loss at Alabama and even against Ole Miss. What I could not understand was the loss against Arkansas. On paper and personnel LSU should have won that game by 10 points....Bama hangover?
Posted on 7/18/16 at 11:58 am to StatMaster
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But Miles stuck with tailback Leonard Fournette.
And he will be as stubborn as last year and do the same and Bama will once again win the SEC West. i just mentally prepare myself for this scenario so I do not have a cardiac event when they happen.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:10 pm to KiwiHead
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When you ask a primarily run oriented team to go into full passing mode you run into problems especially on blocking scheme.
and that's the problem. We don't need to be "primarily run oriented," we should be balanced so we don't experience problems when we go into "passing mode." It's just common sense.
Does LeBron say "I'm only going to shoot when I drive to the basket?" No, he has an outside game too, so the defense can't sag way off of him.
Balance and unpredictability, my friends.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:20 pm to atltiger6487
the problem in the Alabama game is that we ran the ball right from the start, on the very first play, when everyone in the stadium knew that we would have no chance running the ball straight at them
first plays like that just set the tone for the entire game. The game was over after our very first play from scrimmage.
first plays like that just set the tone for the entire game. The game was over after our very first play from scrimmage.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 12:23 pm
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:24 pm to tiggerthetooth
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Oh and lets make sure all the pro-Miles folks on here see this so they don't give him ANOTHER pass, and they finally understand changing the offensive coordinator won't change Les Miles.
This is just another ignorant myth by lsu posters that dont know what they are looking at during the games. Just because you cant see the huge differences in our offenses under Jimbo, Crowton,and Cam doesnt mean they dont exist. Each OC has run his offense. Sure Miles has a say just like every head coach at every level.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:27 pm to StatMaster
And for some reason people think that LSU will beat Bama this year. LOL
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:31 pm to boxcar willie
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the problem in the Alabama game is that we ran the ball right from the start, on the very first play, when everyone in the stadium knew that we would have no chance running the ball straight at them
Thisnis the epitome of revisionist history. Prior to the bama game our oline was considered one of the best in the country and bama had been run on by Tenn. We had also had success running at them in 2014 with a worse line and worse LF. Youre just not being truthful by saying everyone knew they would stop our run game the way they did.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 12:33 pm to Rickety Cricket
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And for some reason people think that LSU will beat Bama this year. LOL
Past games have zero effect on future games.
We are far more experienced than bama and our the gap between our 2nd string and Bama's 2nd string has closed a good bit.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:26 pm to boxcar willie
quote:Sorry, but that's just silly. The 2nd play was inc pass, 3rd a sack, so only positive play in series was a run.
the problem in the Alabama game is that we ran the ball right from the start,
There were 22 actual pass plays called out of 45 total, not counting any that were changed by audible for the balance narrative.
You guys are really reaching for explanations other than Bama beat LSU man for man.
No scheme works for very long if players lose their battles.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:46 pm to Mayhawman
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Unless there is a substantial change of playcalling, get ready for more of the same.
I agree 100%
The rhythm of the play calling is wacked.
I can guess when we're going to pass. (85% correct) And even higher % of when we going to Run the ball. When we pass, One of the main problems there is no element of surprise for the defense.
#6 has NO leadership ability!! He's very passive, and it shows up on the field...
Les is not a coach who adapts very well to adjusting his game plans. It's sad for the fans and the players.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:48 pm to Mayhawman
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No scheme works for very long if players lose their battles.
Exactly. No scheme works when your oline is pushed 2 yards behind the LOS on every snap.
The fact is bama had more talent and experience than us last year. People forget how young we have been the last 2 years and how much the nfl draft has gutted us. Bama's 2016 draft class is almpst bigger than lsu's 2015 and 2016 class combined. I still think its not a crap season when you basically win 10 games with a bunch of true sophomores.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:52 pm to StatMaster
miles shouldn't have let Jennings throw in 2014 before halftime.
So les miles is making the wrong decisions on whether to throw or run. and we have to live with the consequences while he has to live on nearly 5 million dollars a year.
So les miles is making the wrong decisions on whether to throw or run. and we have to live with the consequences while he has to live on nearly 5 million dollars a year.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:54 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Prior to the bama game our oline was considered one of the best in the country and bama had been run on by Tenn
I ran into a good friend of Frank Wilson's. He mentioned Frank told him that, in preparation for the Bama game, Les believed that his OL would line up and dominate the line of scrimage and was he shocked when it didn't happen.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 1:59 pm to Brbengal
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es believed that his OL would line up and dominate the line of scrimage and was he shocked when it didn't happen.
I dont know about dominate but at least get 150 yards rushing. Even the sports analysts were saying that we would have some success running the ball against bama. shite we ran for 180 in 2014 with worse oline and a raw LF.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 2:01 pm to JETigER
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So les miles is making the wrong decisions on whether to throw or run. and we have to live with the consequences while he has to live on nearly 5 million dollars a year.
Yeah we have to live with the consequences of the best tenure in lsu history.
We have to live with the consequences of having as many top 5 finishes as Saban, Mac,and Dietzel combined.
I swear some of you live in this alternate universe where Miles' tenure hasnt been the best in school history.
Posted on 7/18/16 at 2:02 pm to MirrOlure
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I can guess when we're going to pass. (85% correct) And even higher % of when we going to Run the ball. When we pass, One of the main problems there is no element of surprise for the defense.
bullshite. If you could you would be on a sec staff. My god.
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Les is not a coach who adapts very well to adjusting his game plans. It's sad for the fans and the players.
Yeah it's been a kick to the gut having to witness the best tenure in lsu history.
Were you this distraught during Saban's tenure because the last 5 years have a better win loss record than Saban's tenure at lsu.
This post was edited on 7/18/16 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/18/16 at 2:16 pm to StatMaster
Bama was stuffing the run and getting pressure without extra guys. The LOS needs to be able to win some plays before we are going to be able to dethrone the tide. On both sides of the Bama.
Offensively they get enough out of motions and tight ends h backs in the short pass game that opens up the deep plays and power run game. It forces defense to play the whole field and not have to commit to what Bama does best running down your throat
Offensively they get enough out of motions and tight ends h backs in the short pass game that opens up the deep plays and power run game. It forces defense to play the whole field and not have to commit to what Bama does best running down your throat
Posted on 7/18/16 at 2:20 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I can guess when we're going to pass. (85% correct) And even higher % of when we going to Run the ball. When we pass, One of the main problems there is no element of surprise for the defense.
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bullshite. If you could you would be on a sec staff. My god.
come on, Rick. Even Miles supporters should be able to admit that our offense was fairly predictable last year.
By comparison, I'd watch Kiffin's offense, not just against us but other teams too, and marvel at the play-calling. Not just run vs. pass, but the varied plays and formations, uses of different skill positions, short vs. long, middle of the field vs. outside the numbers, etc.
And by the way, I think Kiffin is a tool. But he runs a damn good offense.
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