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re: Guice accused of rape while at LSU

Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43850 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:08 am to
Ok so, legitimate rape that the accuser refuses to report? And that’s taking the accusers story at face value.

It still doesn’t mean LSU covered anything up.
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2105 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:08 am to
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No. We have a Court system and Laws in this country. Apparently, many of you do not realize this.



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We do not try cases in the newspapers or on Twitter. The 1st thing necessary to try a case is to FILE CHARGES which neither of these two females did.



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Many of you need a basic Civics Course.



Individual victims do not press charges. It's up to the individual prosecutor's office to pursue charges after hearing from the victim. You don't know what you're talking about.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285088 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:08 am to
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im not sure exactly what LSU did wrong, but it certainly doesnt mention anything about football coaches withholding anything



Contextually speaking, he played in games. There has to be some complicity there.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20504 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:08 am to
And the former player mentioning that he "believed" Coach O knew that it was non-consensual sex.

Did he "believe" that or is he saying that he "knows" it? Because those are two different things.
Posted by GeauxLSU4
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2012
11504 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:10 am to
The coach O comments sound ridiculous. Based on the timeline of events, I'm not sure how O is culpable here since he wasn't even the HC.
Posted by hall59tiger
Member since Oct 2013
2768 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:11 am to
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there’s literally zero proof O had any idea of these allegations. There’s not even an allegation that anyone told him informally, and there’s certainly no proof of any formal allegations making their way across his desk


The fact that you haven't seen it does not mean it does not exist.


You could say this about anything. The fact that you have not seen a unicorn does not mean it does not exist.
Posted by ccomeaux
LA
Member since Jan 2010
8184 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:12 am to
So you get raped and tell the coaches but you don't go to the police ?
I smell a 'she got caught messing around and it turned to rape after the fact' type of scenario.
The thing that keeps victims from going to the police is the shame and embarrassment but this girl told coaches, the boyfriend, etc so that's obviously not the issue.
I don't buy it.
Posted by TigerAlumni2010
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
4669 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:13 am to
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Incident 1

Took place in spring 2016 with Miles as head coach

Girl then let a friend on diving team know, who then informed her coach, who then informed lsu officials that contacted the girl but the girl didnt want to report and press forward

Then, a year later we have a random girlfriend sleep with people quote from Coach O

Not sure what else LSU could have done here, and the O quote put in here is pure clickbait shite

Incident 2

Tales place in June 2016 with Miles as head Coach and the female is a tennis player

She lets friends know, but no university officials. She then is kicked off by LSU for drugs, and sometime later after being kicked off files a report to Title Ix

So, depending on the title ix investigation, or the potential the womens tennis coach knew more, im not sure exactly what LSU did wrong, but it certainly doesnt mention anything about football coaches withholding anything


From reading the article, I think that is a pretty good summary, though I am not sure if the girlfriend was #1 or #2. The fulcrum upon which this case rests will be

1) Whether or not a Title IX report was filed, and any follow up to that.

2) What the tennis coach knew.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
32774 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:13 am to
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I wonder when this thread gets wacked

when the boyfriend and or the girls get named.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43850 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:13 am to
Not if the entire staff though this was just a case of one player hooking up with another player’s girlfriend. Did Haslett bench Joe Horn for snaking Willie Roaf’s wife?
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:17 am
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8448 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:14 am to
Again I don’t know how O would “know” about it being rape, considering the victim never filed a formal complaint and never told a single school official about it.
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3744 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:14 am to
If the O part is even true it sounds like he was just tying to squash a beef between 2 players where he thought one of their girlfriends had slept with the other guy in the past. From the context provided it doesn’t sound like he had any clue about what had actually went down.
This post was edited on 8/19/20 at 10:21 am
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75693 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:15 am to
The title ix report or non report is a big issue and leaves LSU with a lot of liability, for sure
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11548 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:16 am to
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I smell a 'she got caught messing around and it turned to rape after the fact' type of scenario.

Sounds good, unless the alleged perpetrator has been charged with a crime of violence against another woman. Now it sounds like a pattern.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
285088 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:19 am to
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Not if the entire staff though this was just a case of one player hooking up with another player’s girlfriend. Did Haslett bench Joe Horn for snaking Willie Roaf’s wife?


You have no clue what you are talking about
Posted by rpr4695
Member since May 2013
2105 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:21 am to
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So you get raped and tell the coaches but you don't go to the police ?
I smell a 'she got caught messing around and it turned to rape after the fact' type of scenario.
The thing that keeps victims from going to the police is the shame and embarrassment but this girl told coaches, the boyfriend, etc so that's obviously not the issue.
I don't buy it.



What also keeps victims from coming forward is people who tend to shame victims first. Your post is the classic example.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20504 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:21 am to
I get your point, but this is the former player (ex boyfriend of the girl) saying that he "believed" that Coach O knew it was rape.

So again, I'm asking the former player. Do you believe Coach O knew about it, or are you saying straight up he knew about it and chose not to do anything? That's kind of an important detail in an accusation. Because if you think you know or you "believe", but can't come out and say that you know for a fact - it makes it kind of a moot point. Because you're just throwing out general statement and opinion at that point.
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
17473 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:27 am to
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So again, I'm asking the former player.


Good thing the former player is sitting around on TigerDroppings to answer your weighted question in defense of Ed O.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20504 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:28 am to
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Good thing the former player is sitting around on TigerDroppings to answer your weighted question in defense of Ed O.
Good thing I'm talking in the general sense and not literally meaning I'm asking the player. It's called a rhetorical question. Look it up.

Here, I'll help you:

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A rhetorical question is a question that is not asked in order to receive an answer from the audience or reader. It's just posed to make a point.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43850 posts
Posted on 8/19/20 at 10:50 am to
I forgot, I was talking to the insider who sees all from mom's basement.

Even of you take these girls at their full word, there is nothing in their statements besides speculation that allege coaches knew anything more than "Guice got laid", which happens in college in case you weren't aware. Guice says its all bullshite, so we have a classic he said/she said. How about we all chill tf out and give the school a chance to respond since we've obviously learned nothing from Brian Banks?

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