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re: Great feeling about the wideouts ! Jerry Sullivan Mic’d Up

Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:56 pm to
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 3/20/18 at 12:56 pm to
Man, I just put a thread on hear about this, dude is coaching them up. People were bashing his hire, think it was a great hire, don't think they were getting that kind of instruction last year. People don't need to be hating on these "old" guys man. Man pays attention to minute details and that's what makes good, great.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:03 pm to
Forget about the age, you're getting hung up on that shite, where's Joseph, he's younger and his arse is on the sidelines watching how it's supposed to be done. If these wr's embrace this, he can make them great wr's.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:07 pm to
Amen
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 3/20/18 at 1:53 pm to
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Please explain. Deculus, Ingram, Charles, Traore, Campbell and Brumfield are all 4 star athletes. Cole Smith was the top OC by the ESPN rating. Lewis, Magee and Cushenberry are all good prospects.


Don't sleep on Damien Lewis, the second strongest player on the team. They are talking about moving him to center because O says he is too good to keep off the field.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
29859 posts
Posted on 3/21/18 at 8:37 pm to
I am sure this has been mentioned on here at length, but it looks to me like like O is hiring big time recruiters as the titled position assistant coaches so they can lean more towards recruiting and bringing in really good position coaches in as advisors to do a lot of the actual coaching up at each position that won’t have to worry about recruiting. Would seem like he is at least willing to look at what Bama is doing and maybe learn from.
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10906 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 4:33 am to
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But second, to teach Mickey Joseph how to coach the wide reciever position. Just like I'm sure Coach Johnson was mentored by Coach Jenkins.
LSU is no fricking place for "On the Job" training. Inexperienced coaches have no place anywhere near LSU! Yall think Saban would hire a Dennis Johnson or Mickey Joseph? (No way in hell)
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68581 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 1:28 pm to
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Please explain. Deculus, Ingram, Charles, Traore, Campbell and Brumfield are all 4 star athletes. Cole Smith was the top OC by the ESPN rating. Lewis, Magee and Cushenberry are all good prospects.


Its his way of still trying to blame Les for losing games.
Posted by madddoggydawg
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
6567 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 8:13 pm to
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I’m not going to forget we have the combined oldest staff in football and some of our coordinators and assistants haven’t coached full time in 20 years.


Does this guy suck or does he suck?!
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 3/22/18 at 9:32 pm to
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Please explain. Deculus, Ingram, Charles, Traore, Campbell and Brumfield are all 4 star athletes. Cole Smith was the top OC by the ESPN rating. Lewis, Magee and Cushenberry are all good prospec


you have to realize that semjase has done nothing but shite on our oline play for years. when we had the most all sec olinemen, a rimington award finalist and led the country in yards before contact he was shitting on our line.

he has this notion that there are cfb lines that are elite at both run blocking and pass blocking
This post was edited on 3/22/18 at 9:33 pm
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12894 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:18 am to
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Coaching these kids up and stressing emphasis on precision routes. He’s nitpicking every little flaw and wants these guys to learn how to run routes and get open. I’m loving it. Whoever is the starting QB, I have full faith he’ll have some open targets !
Priority 1 what was needed for that position group. Jerry Rice or Biletnikoff didn't become the standard because of their measurable or 40 times. They became household names because they turned their technique into a precision art.

And worth noting, this is one (of several) missing pieces in the way too broad "QB development". Except for 2013, as a corp/group, our WRs haven't done our QBs any favors. We took a step forward with Canada by utilizing TEs and RBs in the passing game (so it isn't just WRs), but at the end of the day no QB can elevate his game without WRs being where they are supposed to be when needed to be there.

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you have to realize that semjase has done nothing but shite on our oline play for years. when we had the most all sec olinemen, a rimington award finalist and led the country in yards before contact he was shitting on our line.
According to many I've shite on them too; Grimes also. I'd like to think of it as being hypercritical.

But we have an awesome plate set for the OL. Grimes gets some credit for that. He deserves some criticism also, but while having a hand in putting us in a somewhat bad position, he also had a big hand in the recovery from that.

It's now Cregg's job to take that set plate and turn it into a gelled OL that AT LEAST does everything well (pass block, run block, assignments/adjustments/calls).

Ingram is ahead of where one would expect him to be. He just might be a sophomore star. Cushenberry I have hopes, and there is reason to have hope, has turned himself into a solid (or better) C. I predict Lewis is going to be excellent. Brumfield is already pretty good, needs improvement, but solid and I expect him to be better/stronger. A little bit of a limb here, but Deculus is going to look like a whole other player this season (he needs to); I'm predicting Cregg is exactly what he needed (and the push from JUCO Traore).

This is the best I've felt about our OL going into a season in several years.
This post was edited on 3/23/18 at 7:27 am
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14412 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 7:52 am to
Well said. I agree with pretty much everything you said. Our WRs have not helped our QBs at all. Etling mentioned a few times, while trying not to be too critical, that the WRs were running the wrong routes. We've struggled getting off the jam, adjusting to balls in the air and getting separation. Sullivan should help with all of that. As many know, I'm not a fan of Joseph, but if he sticks around he needs to soak up everything he can from Sullivan because he's not staying on staff long.

I actually think Sullivan and Cregg are solid hires. I just hope it translates into results. I was all for Canada too but that didn't exactly work out.
Posted by LSUvet72
Member since Sep 2013
11872 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 12:17 pm to
Geriatric Coaching Staff (GCS).....

Please have 6 month checkups we don't want to lose you guys anytime soon
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 4:18 pm to
GCS is showing youngsters how to coach, Mickey Joseph is on the sidelines watching how it's done.
Posted by tgerb8
Huntsvegas
Member since Aug 2007
5986 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 4:38 pm to
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This is the best I've felt about our OL going into a season in several years.


I agree.

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I actually think Sullivan and Cregg are solid hires. I just hope it translates into results. I was all for Canada too but that didn't exactly work out.


Pete Jenkins wasn't the worst thing that ever happened to LSU. I'd rather have a good coach than a young one.

Cregg happens to be both, which is great.

They were two great hires, but unless the offense actually looks great this year, they'll be overshadowed by the one more important bad hire.
Posted by geauxtigs999
Member since Aug 2017
682 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 4:53 pm to
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Please explain. Deculus, Ingram, Charles, Traore, Campbell and Brumfield are all 4 star athletes. Cole Smith was the top OC by the ESPN rating. Lewis, Magee and Cushenberry are all good prospects.


We'll see if there is a left tackle in that bunch. It may help fans' egos on signing day when you sign a bunch of highly rated guards and no left tackles, but it doesn't help win games.

The biggest difference btw Alabama and LSU in on-field talent is they have had 1st round picks at left tackle, while many years LSU has had guys who should be guards. If you can't protect the QB, you are going to be mediocre on offense.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14412 posts
Posted on 3/23/18 at 5:12 pm to
Austin Deculus was a high 4 star, #10 OT in the nation and #7 player in the state of Texas.
LINK

Traore was the #2 ranked JUCO OT. They like Traore a lot and expect him to step in immediately and Deculus should be much better after a year of S+C and development.
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