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re: Grand jury to hear LSU football players case Wednesday; DNA inconclusive

Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by RummelTiger
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:23 pm to
I'm not going back through this thread, so has this question been answered?

Taking this into consideration:

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Results of DNA taken from suspended quarterback Jordan Jefferson and suspended linebacker Joshua Johns are inconclusive, Moore added. There were no matches to the victims, he said.



Someone tell me how no matches to victims = inconclusive? Would it not just be negative for a match?
Posted by dreaux
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:23 pm to
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Those are total offense rankings correct? What do we looking in passing efficiency, etc
TOP is where we are seeing the main improvements. Mainly the defense resting
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:26 pm to
i would caution people cherry picking stats on the offense last year vs this year.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:27 pm to
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If we are greatly improved than it would be reflected in the stats wouldn't it?

Your sample sizes aren't exactly the same, so it is pretty irrelevant at this point.

Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:30 pm to
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so it is extremely irrelevant at this point.
Posted by Lagrange Gator
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:33 pm to
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hopefully no one. it'd give new meaning to ranter.



Posted by Red Stick Tigress
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:37 pm to
Louisiana law is different from any other state in the US. You don't know if those are the questions asked here.
Posted by ZTiger87
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:38 pm to
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Your sample sizes aren't exactly the same, so it is pretty irrelevant at this point.


How exactly do we compare then? I mean, if you want to say we are greatly improved on offense you would think it would be backed up by stats.
Posted by TigersOfGeauxld
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:39 pm to
I don't need to cherry pick stats, or even have an opinion. The facts are, the LSU offense is doing better now than at anytime in the past two years.

This post was edited on 9/19/11 at 9:39 pm
Posted by Me Bite
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:39 pm to
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Now what should Les do with JJ when he returns?


Punter when Wing is out?
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:39 pm to
Those passing number include JL who accounted for a considerable amount of the passes last year.
Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:44 pm to
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Against BCS schools

Passing efficiency:

2010: 122.69
2011: 125.97

Rushing:

2010: 189 (4.54 ypc)
2011: 162 (3.76 ypc)

Passing:

2010: 166
2011: 156

Scoring:

2010: 27.5
2011: 29.5

3rd Down Conversions:

2010: 41%
2011: 37%


So you're comparing LSU vs Oregon/Mississippi State, 2 ranked opponents vs the entire season last year?


Posted by JJ27
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:46 pm to
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How exactly do we compare then? I mean, if you want to say we are greatly improved on offense you would think it would be backed up by stats.



Compare Oregon/Mississippi State stats to LSU's 2010 games against Auburn/Mississippi State.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:47 pm to
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Someone tell me how no matches to victims = inconclusive? Would it not just be negative for a match?

maybe the victims kicked each other...
Posted by TigerOne
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:47 pm to
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Against BCS schools we averaged 355 ypg last year. This year we are averaging 317. Is the offense really that improved?


The passing offense is much improved with JL as QB this year. Last year, JJ got 151 passing yards, 15/21, in the first game with North Carolina, then regressed for the next 2 games; 112 yards, 9/21, at Vanderbilt, and a mere 97 yards, 10/16, with Miss State.

JL, on the other hand, got 98 yards, 10/22, in the Duck game; 133 yards, 9/10, playing only the first half of the Northwestern State game; and 213 yards, 21/27, in the Miss State game.

Who do you think played better through the first 3 games last year and this year? It's no brainer.

Posted by ZTiger87
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:47 pm to
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So you're comparing LSU vs Oregon/Mississippi State, 2 ranked opponents vs the entire season last year?


VS the 11 bcs conference teams we played against. 7 of the 11 teams were ranked when we played them.
Posted by drexyl
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:47 pm to
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How exactly do we compare then? I mean, if you want to say we are greatly improved on offense you would think it would be backed up by stats.
there are many variables youre leaving out in order to compare the teams. who did we play? where did we play? who was QB? who was the OL? RB? WR? this team is this team; you can't look at last years numbers and say if we replace player X with player Y you hey Z results. JL is the man right now and very little will Change that.
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:48 pm to
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Is it fair to pull lee for JJ?
Absolutely not.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:48 pm to
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How exactly do we compare then?

Sure as hell not statistically at this point since you have a total body of work for one and 1/6 of a body of work for the other.

Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 9/19/11 at 9:49 pm to
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VS the 11 bcs conference teams we played against. 7 of the 11 teams were ranked when we played them.



I can understand not wanting to compare McNeese State vs Northwestern State. Definitely would hurt your argument.
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