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re: Grade Blake Baker's season
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:14 pm to SidewalkTiger
LSU has one of the best offenses in the country too do you think they were a problem in Bama game? Stats don't tell the full picture. It's execution and LSU defense poorly executes in critical moments. That's a consistent theme under Baker. Same for LSU's offense. They don't have any big red zone threats outside Green so it struggles in red zone.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:15 pm to HoneyDuece
I dont get the Baker hate. He gave up 2 scoring drives vs bama. the rest of the scoring came from short fields. Its not his fault that LSU forgets how to football when we get in the redzone, the punt team cant stop a big run back and #3 dropped a touchdown and muffed a punt.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:17 pm to SammyTiger
Agree, Bama wasn’t on him. He wasn’t great, he’s just not a great DC but Kiffin blew the game Saturday with bad decisions. Weiss would come in second most culpable for the terrible red zone calls.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:17 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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That's completely disingenuous. The offense put the LSU defense is two TERRIBLE spots, to give up those 14 points.
You don’t even know what disingenuous means. We’re making the same point.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:18 pm to HoneyDuece
He has an F
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:19 pm to SidewalkTiger
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The talent definitely dropped off but it wasn't THAT much of a drop-off.
Do me a favor. Go look at the starting lineup week 1 and then week let's say 10. Look at that roster and tell me which guys have amounted to anything of significance in the NFL.
Ill help you out. Its Omar Speights. Thats it. And to be very honest, Omar isnt having a great 2026 season.
House wasnt the problem here guys.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:20 pm to FireGoodell
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Not going to put Bama squarely on him but as usual his defense can never get a clutch stop when we need it.
How short of memory do we have? He got a major stop before halftime and gave us a chance to score and get ball back.
No surprise the offense squandered that opportunity
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:22 pm to friendlyobservation
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LSU has one of the best offenses in the country too do you think they were a problem in Bama game? Stats don't tell the full picture.
LSU has a great offense, outside of the redzone. The stats reflect that.
LSU is tied for #68 currently, in redzone offense.
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It's execution and LSU defense poorly executes in critical moments.
I think that's just confirmation bias. If the offense stalls all game and continues to place the game on the defense's shoulders, then they're going to eventually fail once or twice and then we'll point to that as choking in the critical moment.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:23 pm to Madking
If i had to assign blame
saturday
90% OL
10% Punter/Punt team.
saturday
90% OL
10% Punter/Punt team.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:23 pm to BadatBourre
Not sure I agree with this. He was at minimum partially the problem because it was good example of round peg meet square hole. You can't tell me he couldn't do anything there to mold his scheme better to get better production than we did. I mean Aranda did it several times at LSU and he did sometimes midseason to completely change schemes if it wasn't working well enough.
You don't get to be one of the worst defenses in LSU history without being bad as a DC there even if your talent level wasn't up to the standards you enjoy. BK was a bigger problem here but House was absolutely part of that problem. 0 adjustment.
You don't get to be one of the worst defenses in LSU history without being bad as a DC there even if your talent level wasn't up to the standards you enjoy. BK was a bigger problem here but House was absolutely part of that problem. 0 adjustment.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:23 pm to HoneyDuece
Baker continually being lauded as some defensive mastermind is something I cannot understand. The guy has been woefully average in his tenure here vs anyone with a pulse.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:25 pm to LSUShock
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Baker continually being lauded as some defensive mastermind is something I cannot understand.
Because most fans can not accurately judge a coach's abilities, I'm including myself in that conversation.
We don't know the actual calls, or coaching effectiveness of a guy. We only see the result.
Results can be massively skewed one way or another, depending on the player.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:28 pm to SidewalkTiger
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I think that's just confirmation bias. If the offense stalls all game and continues to place the game on the defense's shoulders, then they're going to eventually fail once or twice and then we'll point to that as choking in the critical moment.
Okay. What about the other 3 years of results from Baker's defenses in key moments? Offense no matter how good they are is not going to be able to maintain endless streams of scoring drives. Bama game is on offense but you can't deny bad decisions are partial because Kiffin knows he can't rely on Baker's defense in key moments.
He tried that in Kentucky game and it cost them. That place is not easy to play in and LSU score 34 points which should be more than enough to win on the road. Where are we at if you can never rely on your defense in big moments? Momentum swing is a massive part of the college game that's severely underrated and has no measurable stat for.
Now we're seeing Ole Miss Kiffin that just makes boneheaded decisions because he can't rely on his DC. He trusted him 1 time and now he's second guessing it each time. Between Kiffin being Kiffin alongside a terrible punter and unreliable defense it in key moments I can see why he went for it. LSU has actually been exceptionally well on 4th down this year. I don't think they had a failed 4th down conversion until this game? That dropped 4th down pass by Wilson was killer because he might've strolled into the end zone if he turned it up quick enough.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:33 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:31 pm to HoneyDuece
Overall its hard to not say that Blake hasn't done a good job. I think overall his defense has performed really well especially considering that he lost 2 key players in Whit and Spears.
Now, situational defense last 2 minutes of half/game, redzone defense, clutch situations (offense ties or takes the lead possession in 2nd half) has been bad at too often.
Overall B+
Pass Rush: A-
Rush Defense: A
Pass Defense: B+
Redzone Defense: C+
Last 2 minutes: C-
Clutch situations: C- (debated doing a D but got a big stop against Clemson, State, Auburn, Kentucky (2 missed field goals), and to start the 2nd half against Ole Miss. With the drive late in the game against Ole Miss, 2 drives late in the game and overtime against Kentucky, and the back breaking TD against Bama after we took the lead just makes it a C-)
So again Overall very good but situational defensive football has struggled at times.
Now, situational defense last 2 minutes of half/game, redzone defense, clutch situations (offense ties or takes the lead possession in 2nd half) has been bad at too often.
Overall B+
Pass Rush: A-
Rush Defense: A
Pass Defense: B+
Redzone Defense: C+
Last 2 minutes: C-
Clutch situations: C- (debated doing a D but got a big stop against Clemson, State, Auburn, Kentucky (2 missed field goals), and to start the 2nd half against Ole Miss. With the drive late in the game against Ole Miss, 2 drives late in the game and overtime against Kentucky, and the back breaking TD against Bama after we took the lead just makes it a C-)
So again Overall very good but situational defensive football has struggled at times.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:32 pm to SammyTiger
Not taking the points down 10-3 led to a domino effect of bad choices. Up to that point Bama had drives of 11, 3 and 9 plays. We had drives of 14, 6 and 11 plays. The pace of the game was going to limit your possessions and you can’t leave 3 points out there. What ended up happening was when Bama went ahead 24-13 it should’ve been a 1 score game but instead we start going for it and the game snowballed becoming untenable.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:33 pm to friendlyobservation
You mention Baker in the Kentucky game. Are you ignoring that LSU’s offense had the ball with 4 minutes left, up 27-24, and fumbled it away. And then again they had it with 1:27 left, still up 27-24 and went stall out punt?
Two chances to close the game out and they failed.
Two chances to close the game out and they failed.
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:38 pm to SulphursFinest
On the road, and yes, they screwed those situations up. Kentucky offense is not that good. LSU should've dominated them on defense or just played much better than they did. That said, not really debating at least half Kentucky's points were handed to them by refs.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:43 pm to friendlyobservation
I just wanted it to be known, that with the game on the line, the offense shite the bed. Much like they did against Alabama.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:45 pm to HoneyDuece
C
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:46 pm to Alltheway Tigers!
quote:The thread is about Baker, and I would counter that when the offense does finally produce and takes the lead with only 2 minutes left in the third, Baker's defense goes full retard and gives it right back up.
Score points in the first half. Don’t let Bama hang around and live off the big play. Pass rush was done by the 3rd quarter as it had to carry team because Sam can’t make the passes when needed.
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