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re: Grade Blake Baker's season
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
At the end of the day, the d is his responsibility. The Kentucky 2 point conversion is on him. The Bama 65 yarder is on him. One play lost a game. The other totally changed the momentum. Where have we seen this before? Oh yea, vs OM when LSU has a chance, but the d faltered again in the 4th quarter, late.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:52 pm to SidewalkTiger
So you think they don't have coaches who have their players more disciplined and in position based on their coaching ability? I'm not saying what you're saying above is Baker's fault but I don't think this is the hill you want to die on either. It's absolutely the coach's responsibility to put those players in the best position to execute and that comes down to everything from how he calls plays, to scheme, to discipline in coaching them. That's quite a reach with the point you're trying to make. That's what separates really good coaches from bad ones. Baker has elite personnel and is the highest paid DC in the country. What should we expect from him?
This post was edited on 11/9/26 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:54 pm to friendlyobservation
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So you think they don't have coaches who have their players more disciplined and in position based on their coaching ability? I'm not saying what you're saying above is Baker's fault but I don't think this is the hill you want to die on either. It's absolutely the coach's responsibility to put those players in the best position to execute and that comes down to everything from how he calls plays, to scheme, to discipline in coaching them. That's quite a reach with the point you're trying to make. That's what separates really good coaches from bad ones. Baker has elite personnel and is the highest paid DC in the country. What should we expect from him?
So tell me who is better and let's compare.
I'll concede that Georgia and Texas have better defenses than us.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:57 pm to HoneyDuece
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He cannot make a big stop to save his life. I firmly believe that if they would have stopped Bama on the drive after we took the lead 13-10 that the Tigers would have used that to snowball the Tide. Instead of the stadium rocking, it was totally deflated after letting them go 75 yards on 5 plays to take back the lead. A busted coverage to start and then a 3rd and 9 scramble for a first down. Then another busted coverage. Both Blake Baker specials, vintage Baker if you will.
He couldn't get a big stop against Ole Miss either after we tied it. He couldn't get the stop against Kentucky, when we had the lead and they were backed up to their own 19 with less than two minutes remaining.
His defenses play well for the most part but fail miserably when all the chips are on the table. In fact, they look fricking terrrible when the game/momentum is on the line.
He cannot make a big stop to save his life. I firmly believe that if they would have stopped Bama on the drive after we took the lead 13-10 that the Tigers would have used that to snowball the Tide. Instead of the stadium rocking, it was totally deflated after letting them go 75 yards on 5 plays to take back the lead. A busted coverage to start and then a 3rd and 9 scramble for a first down. Then another busted coverage. Both Blake Baker specials, vintage Baker if you will.
He couldn't get a big stop against Ole Miss either after we tied it. He couldn't get the stop against Kentucky, when we had the lead and they were backed up to their own 19 with less than two minutes remaining.
His defenses play well for the most part but fail miserably when all the chips are on the table. In fact, they look fricking terrrible when the game/momentum is on the line.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:58 pm to SidewalkTiger
I mean, that's not the point you were trying to make above. I'm sure you can easily run a list down and think they have many better DCs than him at both the NFL and college level. LSU wouldn't be a school that only looks at the NCAA level for a DC with the money they throw around. That point makes no sense anyway. We're talking about player's executing a scheme and if it's the coach's partial responsibility for this which isn't really debatable. That doesn't mean Baker is a bad DC but his defenses due have tendencies to fold in big moments because you have 3 years of examples to show for it not just this year.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:58 pm to kajunman
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The Bama 65 yarder is on him. One play lost a game.
I mean they called zone coverage and Cooley and Keys both lost him. Dottery was in the area as well but he picked up the man in the flat.
On the ensuing touchdown, the play call was fine but Pickett fought through the tight end chip and then just let him leak into the end zone uncovered.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 12:59 pm to mdomingue
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You're talking about advanced metrics to retards. Wasting virtual ink.
Matt House who gets shite on by this board on every single post had some of the best advanced metrics, just FYI. He had a top 30 defense with 39 scholarship players his very first year and made Perkins look like a cannonball.
Sometimes those advanced metrics are skewed considering the competition you play agaisnt.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:00 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
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Our loses boil down to 2 major things....Turnovers, and not finishing drives with points (often times those two are tied together). It's as simple as that.
This. No reason a KY defense should have stopped us the amount they did. Defense kept us in the game with Bama but could not score any meaningful points at home. Ole Miss was emotional the first half, leading to both sides of the ball getting nothing in the first half.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:01 pm to friendlyobservation
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I mean, that's not the point you were trying to make above. I'm sure you can easily run a list down and think they have many better DCs than him at both the NFL and college level. LSU wouldn't be a school that only looks at the NCAA level for a DC with the money they throw around. That point makes no sense anyway. We're talking about player's executing a scheme and if it's the coach's partial responsibility for this which isn't really debatable. That doesn't mean Baker is a bad DC but his defenses due have tendencies to fold in big moments because you have 3 years of examples to show for it not just this year.
Sure, it is.
My point has always been if you're going to say a coach is bad, who are you comparing him to? Perfection?
The modern game gives an advantage to offensive players. Defenses are going to give up points and yards.
LSU has one of the best defenses in the country and people here are insisting it's a problem.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:03 pm to GulfSouthTiger
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He cannot make a big stop to save his life. I firmly believe that if they would have stopped Bama on the drive after we took the lead 13-10 that the Tigers would have used that to snowball the Tide. Instead of the stadium rocking, it was totally deflated after letting them go 75 yards on 5 plays to take back the lead. A busted coverage to start and then a 3rd and 9 scramble for a first down. Then another busted coverage. Both Blake Baker specials, vintage Baker if you will.
Score points in the first half. Don’t let Bama hang around and live off the big play. Pass rush was done by the 3rd quarter as it had to carry team because Sam can’t make the passes when needed. Make its Sam’s injury, not being with the system a full term, or whatever but defense was eventually going to get burned. That is just how a pressure defense plays. It will get burned. Offense has to do its share.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:03 pm to HoneyDuece
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Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:05 pm to BadatBourre
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Matt House who gets shite on by this board on every single post had some of the best advanced metrics, just FYI. He had a top 30 defense with 39 scholarship players his very first year and made Perkins look like a cannonball.
Sometimes those advanced metrics are skewed considering the competition you play agaisnt.
LSU's defense was pretty solid in 2022, finished #17 in advanced metrics like FEI.
2023 was #101.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:07 pm to SidewalkTiger
Tennessee is better as well.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:08 pm to SidewalkTiger
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LSU's defense was pretty solid in 2022, finished #17 in advanced metrics like FEI.
2023 was #101.
Correct. And what changed between those 2 years? The talent is what changed and it was AWFUL in 2023.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:10 pm to HoneyDuece
Red Zone Defense
Ole Miss 5 for 5 with 4TDs
Alabama 3 for 3 with 3 TDs
Pathetic!
Ole Miss 5 for 5 with 4TDs
Alabama 3 for 3 with 3 TDs
Pathetic!
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:11 pm to FriscoTiger
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Tennessee is better as well.
Tennessee is pretty good, at #6. They gave up a touchdown and field goal on South Carolina's final two drives, giving the Cocks the win.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:12 pm to HoneyDuece
Our defense keeps us in games. The only thing I’d like to see is the defense create a couple more turnovers.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:12 pm to BadatBourre
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Correct. And what changed between those 2 years? The talent is what changed and it was AWFUL in 2023.
I think House also didn't really connect with the players and that became evident in year 2. The talent definitely dropped off but it wasn't THAT much of a drop-off.
I don't think House is a bad X's and O's coach.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:13 pm to SidewalkTiger
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Our defense is ranked #3 in advanced metrics
Ironic considering 3 losses against the 3 good teams we've played. I wouldn't say that we have an awful defense, but I wouldn't say it's a trustworthy one either. Certainly not one that we can lean on if the offense isn't playing well.
Posted on 11/9/26 at 1:14 pm to HoneyDuece
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