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re: Go get Andrew Whitworth for OL coach

Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:23 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:23 pm to
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Ah yes, Louisiana’s favorite “one of us” approach.

I hate it here. Lol


Kyle Williams is doing pretty well as the D-Line coach. Why wouldn't you want a future Hall-Of-Fame offensive lineman coaching your offensive line?
Posted by red sox fan 13
Valley Park
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:24 pm to
I always heard Whitworth is a physical freak with a huge wingspan and his technique isn’t really coachable to normal people. Obviously I don’t know how that would translate to coaching OL in general since he would have to adapt to his players needs.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:25 pm to
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It’s funny NFL staffs are full of recent ex players who are very good but don’t mention hiring one here, the fans lose it. One of the weirdest things on the Rant


Did Kevin Faulk work out here? Lynn Amadee and Stoval were former players here. How did their tenures end? Brad Davis may not be an LSU alum, but he played at Oklahoma and is from BR, and it appears we are about to run him out of town. Not all former players, even alums, work out.

Kyle Williams was a bit of a risk as a hire not having any college coaching experience, but we also have him coaching next to one of the best DE coaches in the business, who also happens to be very experienced. That makes a difference and we don’t have that same setup for our OL.

We need someone with a proven college coaching track record as the next OL Coach. Period.
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:26 pm to
Being a naturally-gifted elite NFL lineman doesn’t necessarily mean you’re good at coaching and motivating kids.

Kyle Williams had experience coaching at Ruston High before being hired by LSU.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 5:27 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:26 pm to
So was Aaron Glenn
DeMeco Ryans
Dan Campbell
Jim Harbaugh
Mike Vrabel
Jerod Mayo and dozens of others
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70546 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:27 pm to
So Davis is an ex player, you’re refuting your own point
Posted by Pikes Peak Tiger
Colorado Springs
Member since Jun 2023
9794 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:28 pm to
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He;s one of the best to ever play the position so



That doesn’t mean he can coach
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:30 pm to
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So was Aaron Glenn DeMeco Ryans Dan Campbell Jim Harbaugh Mike Vrabel Jerod Mayo and dozens of others


Almost every single coach out there is a former player. This conversation is more about whether or not former LSU player greats will automatically make great coaches.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70546 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:32 pm to
The premise is you can’t hire a guy right after he played which is beyond idiotic and goes against all the information there is. We’re not talking HC or even OC, it’s a position coach.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Why do people think ex Tiger greats would automatically make great coache


I for one never said to limit the OL coach hire to a former LSU OL. However, I DID say that an OL who has played in the NFL is a hell of a lot better shot of being a good OL coach than Brad Davis who obviously is incompetent in improving the play of his OL players. There is no guarantee that a former OL would be a better coach than BD, but there is 100% guarantee that he would not be worse!
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by cbree88
South Louisiana
Member since Feb 2010
10485 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:33 pm to
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Because they’re simpletons who can’t think past going out and getting an LSU guy rather than getting the best possible candidate. If Mawae hadn’t played at LSU, zero people would want him. It’s like owning a business that needs a salesman and the first thing you think of is to hire a guy that went to your high school for no other reason than he went to your high school.


This. You made an excellent post here.

Posted by TigahJay
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2015
11391 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:35 pm to
Go get Sam Pittman
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:36 pm to
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If you're not going to BEG Pittman to come in and coach the OL for the reminder of the 2025 season, then get Mawae/Whitworth (And all the NFL Pro-Bowl experience) to come in.


Pittman didn’t coach on the field most of last year and had to walk with a cane until he had a hip replacement. He may no longer be physically able to be a position coach. Arkansas fans have also been cautioning that he didn’t do a particularly great job with their OL over the last 3 seasons with recruiting or development.

Maybe he’s ready for a bounce-back like Raymond. But Raymond didn’t have the health issues, and those can bring a good coaching career to an end early. Just look at Jerry Kill. I know he’s still an analyst, but he could still be a head coach if his health would allow it.

Pittman may just be washed up and done with coaching at this point. Whatever happens with him, there can’t be any risks looking for an OL Coach. That means no former players just because or guys who have red flags.

Interesting footnote- I was looking at some rankings of OL coaches just to get an idea of who is where today. One from 2023 popped up and had Alex Atkins listed at number 2 out of the their top 50.
Posted by Tigers4life
The great US of A
Member since May 2004
1976 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:40 pm to
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We need someone with a proven college coaching track record as the next OL Coach. Period.


Mid season or keep BD the rest of the year?
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:40 pm to
I know Kevin didn’t nail your lady because he’s a Godly man……was it Scott or Mark?

You really do have some Mawae hate in you.

Oh. And I know a helluva lot more about coaching than you.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70546 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:42 pm to
It’s the kind of logic you use when you’re cowardly and ignorant
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:44 pm to
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So Davis is an ex player, you’re refuting your own point


My point is that you don’t consider an ex-player just because he went to LSU or has ties to the area. Our OL job opened late and Davis was undoubtedly pursued by O because he thought he could get him due to his ties here. That’s not any guarantee of success and isn’t a reason to keep him here any longer. And it probably DID factor into him being retained as long as he has been. I have no issue hiring a former player if they’ve PROVEN themselves in some capacity before they come here.

Again, I think Kyle Williams is a good exception to the rule because of when he was hired, our need for stability at that spot, and the potential for mentorship from Peoples. As for any other former player here or P4 guy from LA- let them sign up to learn as an analyst or go fricking prove themselves somewhere else first. That was the path that Corey Raymond took. He interned here, was a strength coach, went out and coached for 3 years elsewhere, and THEN got the DB job.
This post was edited on 9/29/25 at 5:45 pm
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:44 pm to
I’m guessing you’re aiming that at me, but the context is off.

I’m neither cowardly nor ignorant…..I’ll assume you mean the other gentle person.
Posted by CharlesLSU
Member since Jan 2007
33653 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:46 pm to
I do agree that Cory’s path is ideal.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 9/29/25 at 5:48 pm to
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Mid season or keep BD the rest of the year?


It’s very rare that you would have a 2nd guy on staff who also has experience coaching OL, but we do with Atkins, so the possibility does exist. I doubt that happens mid-season, but who knows.
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